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I appreciate your joke but I don't think the HN populace gets the full context because there are a couple of steps that need to happen to connect the parent quo

by legodt 10y ago

I appreciate your joke but I don't think the HN populace gets the full context because there are a couple of steps that need to happen to connect the parent quote and your punchline.

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tritosomal 10y ago
Just spell it out. D-O-G W-H-I-S-T-L-E
- legodt 10y ago
  I've been seeing you around HN a lot recently and I've gotta say with your -5 points and all you are winning my heart
  - tritosomal 10y ago
    Ha! I just noticed this. My comments don't karma whore, and I'm not interested in appeasing the whims of the mods. It doesn't do the community much good to pull punches, if that means putting a diplomatic muzzle on valid points and opinions that contrast with a preferred norm.
Zigurd 10y ago
It is appalling that calling out an obvious dog-whistle phrase is either not understood or unwelcome here. This is what leads to "race realism" becoming an acceptable topic in some circles.
- prodontilate 10y ago
  What's misunderstood is your concept of the HN downvote. It is neither rational, nor fair, nor explained. It materializes from thin air, lands on anyone that awakens a even but pang of discomfort in another user, and smears all words irrevocably, and dispassionately. You might catch a downvote for being vague. You might catch a downvote for mispelling. You might catch a downvote for trying to be funny, and succeeding, but because you've offended the faceless humorless. Even an obsequeous comment will be downvoted for spinelessness. Few honest comments actually work on HN. Almost all HN comments need to be slippery, many require a fecetious concilliatory bent. You really can't win when commenting. Not anywhere. Someone out there will find a reason to slam you.
  - lefstathiou 10y ago
    I am fascinated that you decided to make a new HN alias in order to articulate this point, which btw I think has a lot of merit. Making the huge assumption this is not your primary HN alias, out of curiosity, why did you decide to disassociate yourself from the thread?
    - prodontilate 10y ago
      I could make up reasons that would seem to bolster my merit, but the reality is that my replies were throttled under another account, lol. Anyway, I've stopped karma-whoring. And even though I possess the capacity for downvoting under other accounts, I do not use that power. Admittedly, it means I no longer play into the ranking algorithms, and I can't feed into any persona reputation, but the power to freely disagree, and to add voice to other people's (otherwise silent) downvotes, or contradict downvotes when I feel they're wrong, is the more valuable feature any forum can offer. Maybe it fulfills other needs and my glandular, gutteral response to people who "are wrong on the internet" overrides the ego of being preened and revered by the community, but the way I see it someone needs to fill this niche. HN has a serious echo-chamber problem, and the prevailing wind needs some yelling into.
      - lefstathiou 10y ago
        I appreciate the response and your efforts. I've been on HN almost 10 years and i sense it is shifting further toward an echo-chamber. You can almost predict the reaction the community (by numbers) will have based on the title or topic of a post. I suspect more and more people are picking up on this judging by comments in threads (or maybe I'm just looking for it). What I wonder is if this is reversion to the mean or has the mean shifted (perhaps as a result of changes in times or demographics). Anyway it is enjoying to watch and I am curious to see how this plays out. My only fear is that people with conflicting ideas take them somewhere else. There is no better place than HN IMHO to see constructive arguments unfold across so many topics.
        prodontilate 10y ago

by legodt 10y ago

I appreciate your joke but I don't think the HN populace gets the full context because there are a couple of steps that need to happen to connect the parent quote and your punchline.

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tritosomal 10y ago

Just spell it out. D-O-G W-H-I-S-T-L-E

legodt 10y ago
I've been seeing you around HN a lot recently and I've gotta say with your -5 points and all you are winning my heart
- tritosomal 10y ago
  Ha! I just noticed this. My comments don't karma whore, and I'm not interested in appeasing the whims of the mods. It doesn't do the community much good to pull punches, if that means putting a diplomatic muzzle on valid points and opinions that contrast with a preferred norm.

Zigurd 10y ago

It is appalling that calling out an obvious dog-whistle phrase is either not understood or unwelcome here. This is what leads to "race realism" becoming an acceptable topic in some circles.

prodontilate 10y ago
What's misunderstood is your concept of the HN downvote. It is neither rational, nor fair, nor explained. It materializes from thin air, lands on anyone that awakens a even but pang of discomfort in another user, and smears all words irrevocably, and dispassionately. You might catch a downvote for being vague. You might catch a downvote for mispelling. You might catch a downvote for trying to be funny, and succeeding, but because you've offended the faceless humorless. Even an obsequeous comment will be downvoted for spinelessness. Few honest comments actually work on HN. Almost all HN comments need to be slippery, many require a fecetious concilliatory bent. You really can't win when commenting. Not anywhere. Someone out there will find a reason to slam you.
- lefstathiou 10y ago
  I am fascinated that you decided to make a new HN alias in order to articulate this point, which btw I think has a lot of merit. Making the huge assumption this is not your primary HN alias, out of curiosity, why did you decide to disassociate yourself from the thread?
  - prodontilate 10y ago
    I could make up reasons that would seem to bolster my merit, but the reality is that my replies were throttled under another account, lol. Anyway, I've stopped karma-whoring. And even though I possess the capacity for downvoting under other accounts, I do not use that power. Admittedly, it means I no longer play into the ranking algorithms, and I can't feed into any persona reputation, but the power to freely disagree, and to add voice to other people's (otherwise silent) downvotes, or contradict downvotes when I feel they're wrong, is the more valuable feature any forum can offer. Maybe it fulfills other needs and my glandular, gutteral response to people who "are wrong on the internet" overrides the ego of being preened and revered by the community, but the way I see it someone needs to fill this niche. HN has a serious echo-chamber problem, and the prevailing wind needs some yelling into.
    - lefstathiou 10y ago
      I appreciate the response and your efforts. I've been on HN almost 10 years and i sense it is shifting further toward an echo-chamber. You can almost predict the reaction the community (by numbers) will have based on the title or topic of a post. I suspect more and more people are picking up on this judging by comments in threads (or maybe I'm just looking for it). What I wonder is if this is reversion to the mean or has the mean shifted (perhaps as a result of changes in times or demographics). Anyway it is enjoying to watch and I am curious to see how this plays out. My only fear is that people with conflicting ideas take them somewhere else. There is no better place than HN IMHO to see constructive arguments unfold across so many topics.
      - prodontilate 10y ago