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Why? Because he exposed the fact that my Bill of Rights is being eroded away to nothing? There's not an asterisk at the bottom that says the above is null and
by JustSomeNobody 10y ago
Why? Because he exposed the fact that my Bill of Rights is being eroded away to nothing?
There's not an asterisk at the bottom that says the above is null and void in the internet age.
- cm2187 10y agoMy point (and the point of the article) is rather than Obama is missing a chance to prevent a nice gift being offered to Trump.
- rootusrootus 10y agoIf that was all he had done, it would be easier to support him. Unfortunately he went a little further than that, into territory that arguably is a national security issue.
- baddox 10y agoArguably, yes. I'd like to hear a real argument, other than "leaking stuff might make us less safe." The leaks are public, so it shouldn't be too hard to find specific instances where people were harmed.
- mc32 10y agoNot necessarily. Human assets can be lost or they can be compromised, methods can be compromised, humint and other intelligence can be set back years so that what goes on in adversarial and even friendly governments is a black box to us (which is not good, given our heft.) so, unless other governments thinking and methods become transparent, this exposure is a real risk.
- CamperBob2 10y agoUnfortunately he went a little further than that, into territory that arguably is a national security issue. Correct. When the illegal, unaccountable, and extrajudicial surveillance powers documented by Snowden are turned on our elected representatives, which they inevitably will be, the concept of "national security" will be well and truly lost. That's the real threat, the one that nobody ever talks about.
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- pdabbadabba 10y agoTrue enough. But what does this have to do with GP's comment? I took his point to be simply that, if Putin wants to boost Trump politically, and strengthen the connection between their administrations, then handing over Snowden might make sense. GP was just pointing out this possibility, not endorsing it.
- xyzzy4 10y agoThe Bill of Rights is just a piece of paper. What really matters is how the people in various government branches interpret it.
- tankenmate 10y agoAnd how the people that vote choose to interpret it. And how the people who adjudicate the constitution choose to interpret it.
- xyzzy4 10y agoMost people who vote prioritize jobs, the economy, and stuff like that. They don't really think about the Constitution so much.