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I don't know if I'm understanding their concept , they basically want to store locally (users computers) every data ? If so, how would this work ? A special ap

I don't know if I'm understanding their concept , they basically want to store locally (users computers) every data ? If so, how would this work ? A special app ? A plugin on FF to connect to it ? Will it store your friends data as well ? What if your HD drops dead or something ? Sorry if I missed their concept :\

petervandijck 16y ago
Think Napster (some kind of peer to peer) for Facebook (social graph, share text, images), as far a I can tell.
johnrob 16y ago
"What if your HD drops dead or something?" This is the crux of the matter. You've got two options: store your data locally, or store it in the cloud. Local storage minimizes the chance of loss; Cloud storage sacrifices you privacy. Pick your poison. It comes down to what you're more afraid of, and I am much more afraid of losing pictures than being subject to some sort of privacy violation. Not saying one is better than the other, but if you sampled 1000 random people, my money says that people err on the side of keeping their pictures safe.
- NathanKP 16y ago
  I would go for the cloud storage because it makes it easier to switch to a new computer. Unless the system is design to transfer data from my local computer to my new one easily it might not be worth the privacy gain. This problem of moving your locally stored data to another computer might be compounded if you are switching operating system as well as computers. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how they work around it.
- phatbyte 16y ago
  Well, I can see the reason why. I just don't think they will pull this off. I'm thinking that for every profile, there will be a node(computer), so for instance, if a computer is not connected, will it not be available for viewing that users photos,etc.. But, if they save all of the content (personal info, friends info, pictures...) locally like say a repository(GIT, SVN, etc..) wouldn't this miss the whole point of owning your data, since instead of my picture being in one server..it's living in all of my friends computers.
  - johnrob 16y ago
    Exactly, I don't think this project will get far trying to deliver privacy at the expense of redundancy/availability.
    - phr 16y ago
      Store encrypted data redundantly in the cloud, with peer-to-peer crypto magic for key distribution? I have no idea how you'd protect against one of your "friends" deciding to release your stuff in plaintext.
- wmf 16y ago
  The cloud can be private; you just need a good contract like this one: Each of us agrees not to use the other's Confidential Information except in connection with the performance or use of the Services, as applicable, the exercise of our respective legal rights under the Agreement, or as may be required by law. Each of us agrees not to disclose the other's Confidential Information to any third person except as follows: to our respective service providers, agents, and representatives, provided that such service providers, agents, or representatives agree to confidentiality measures that are at least as stringent as those stated in these General Terms and Conditions. to law enforcement or government agency if required by a subpoena or other compulsory legal process, or if either of us believes, in good faith, that the other's conduct may violate applicable criminal law as required by law; or in response to a subpoena or other compulsory legal process, provided that each of us agrees to give the other written notice of at least seven days prior to disclosing Confidential Information under this subsection (or prompt notice in advance of disclosure, if seven days advance notice is not reasonably feasible), unless the law forbids such notice. http://www.rackspacecloud.com/legal http://www.rackspacecloud.com/legal
- lsc 16y ago
  false choice. If you allow arbitrary user controlled locations, users can keep their data, for example, on a friends vps (which hopefully is on mirrored disk and backed up to another provider) and get a reasonable degree of reliability without sacraficing privacy.
mcantelon 16y ago
>Will it store your friends data as well That make sense for redundancy.

petervandijck 16y ago

Think Napster (some kind of peer to peer) for Facebook (social graph, share text, images), as far a I can tell.

johnrob 16y ago

"What if your HD drops dead or something?" This is the crux of the matter. You've got two options: store your data locally, or store it in the cloud. Local storage minimizes the chance of loss; Cloud storage sacrifices you privacy. Pick your poison. It comes down to what you're more afraid of, and I am much more afraid of losing pictures than being subject to some sort of privacy violation. Not saying one is better than the other, but if you sampled 1000 random people, my money says that people err on the side of keeping their pictures safe.

NathanKP 16y ago
I would go for the cloud storage because it makes it easier to switch to a new computer. Unless the system is design to transfer data from my local computer to my new one easily it might not be worth the privacy gain. This problem of moving your locally stored data to another computer might be compounded if you are switching operating system as well as computers. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how they work around it.
phatbyte 16y ago
Well, I can see the reason why. I just don't think they will pull this off. I'm thinking that for every profile, there will be a node(computer), so for instance, if a computer is not connected, will it not be available for viewing that users photos,etc.. But, if they save all of the content (personal info, friends info, pictures...) locally like say a repository(GIT, SVN, etc..) wouldn't this miss the whole point of owning your data, since instead of my picture being in one server..it's living in all of my friends computers.
- johnrob 16y ago
  Exactly, I don't think this project will get far trying to deliver privacy at the expense of redundancy/availability.
  - phr 16y ago
    Store encrypted data redundantly in the cloud, with peer-to-peer crypto magic for key distribution? I have no idea how you'd protect against one of your "friends" deciding to release your stuff in plaintext.
wmf 16y ago
The cloud can be private; you just need a good contract like this one: Each of us agrees not to use the other's Confidential Information except in connection with the performance or use of the Services, as applicable, the exercise of our respective legal rights under the Agreement, or as may be required by law. Each of us agrees not to disclose the other's Confidential Information to any third person except as follows: to our respective service providers, agents, and representatives, provided that such service providers, agents, or representatives agree to confidentiality measures that are at least as stringent as those stated in these General Terms and Conditions. to law enforcement or government agency if required by a subpoena or other compulsory legal process, or if either of us believes, in good faith, that the other's conduct may violate applicable criminal law as required by law; or in response to a subpoena or other compulsory legal process, provided that each of us agrees to give the other written notice of at least seven days prior to disclosing Confidential Information under this subsection (or prompt notice in advance of disclosure, if seven days advance notice is not reasonably feasible), unless the law forbids such notice. http://www.rackspacecloud.com/legal http://www.rackspacecloud.com/legal
lsc 16y ago
false choice. If you allow arbitrary user controlled locations, users can keep their data, for example, on a friends vps (which hopefully is on mirrored disk and backed up to another provider) and get a reasonable degree of reliability without sacraficing privacy.

mcantelon 16y ago

>Will it store your friends data as well That make sense for redundancy.