I always ask what the valuation is, and they'll usually tell you after some back and forth of "why are you giving me a job offer with a value that I don't under

I always ask what the valuation is, and they'll usually tell you after some back and forth of "why are you giving me a job offer with a value that I don't understand? You wouldn't keep the salary a secret, so why are you keeping the value of my options secret?"