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There's a conservative backlash going on as people see an effort to make the world more inclusive as a racist attack on their own priviledged position. For the

There's a conservative backlash going on as people see an effort to make the world more inclusive as a racist attack on their own priviledged position. For the record I didn't see any Polynesian, Micronesian, Melanesian, or Jewish people. I also didn't see any Black Men, Asian Women, Transgender, etc. I saw a White woman and a White man with a VR head set though.

cptskippy 10y ago
> There's a conservative backlash going on as people see an effort to make the world more inclusive as a racist attack on their own priviledged position. I would hardly call it a backlash or even outrage. The observation being made is that they're specifically excluding a prominent demographic in their attempts at appearing inclusive or cross cultural. The message being sent isn't "we're all equal", it's "we don't need/want you."
- disordinary 10y ago
  There is definitely a backlash, we're seeing it in multiple communities and it's culmination in political movements like Brexit and the Trump presidency. Of course they want and need you. Assuming you're white, male, middle class, a resident of the United States, and work in the tech industry - you probably make up the majority of Mozillas workforce and are one of the most privileged people on the planet. As I said, there was also a white male in the pictures.
  - bluthru 10y ago
    >Assuming you're white, male, middle class, a resident of the United States, and work in the tech industry - you probably make up the majority of Mozillas workforce Why wouldn't it in the United States? >and are one of the most privileged people on the planet This sort of language rubs me the wrong way; it sort of invalidates the hard work of my ancestors who wanted to create a better life for their descendants.
    - disordinary 10y ago
      Theft, warmongering, and exploitation by your ancestors (and peers) you mean? I realise that this will probably be taken as a troll like statement, but that's not my intention. In all earnestness we do need to take a hard look at ourselves and how we've behaved as a society, you can't own your ancestors hard work without also owning what they did to indigenous and minority people. And also what gives us the right to have all of these advantageous and benefits purely by an accident of birth?
      - bluthru 10y ago
        Every group of humans has stolen, warmongered, and exploited others. The difference is who was able to create the technology to amplify those effects. White people were slaves. (The word slave derives from "Slav".) Africans sold off their own to the slave trade for profit. Whites were the only ones to die for the freedom of another race. There is more slavery occurring today in non-white countries than ever occurred in white countries. You get the point--it's not so black and white. Europe had practically no slaves, but that didn't stop Europeans from creating societies with the best quality of life. >And also what gives us the right to have all of these advantageous and benefits purely by an accident of birth? Humanity should only move as fast as the slowest person? Are you questioning the inherent genetic motivation for parents to care more about their offspring and community than someone on the other side of the world? It's wrong for a child to inherit what his ancestors built but right for someone on the other side of the world to inherit what someone else's ancestors built?
        disordinary 10y ago
        That's exactly right, and it's still going. But we have the opportunity to stop it, and it starts by being more inclusive and projecting a friendly image to everyone. :) You should take a look at the Waitangi tribunal in New Zealand which redresses historical injustices to the Maori, it's not perfect but is a good illustration on a society owning up to its mistakes and trying to fix them and returns billions of dollars worth of assets to Iwi. The other thing that you seem to forget is that Mozilla is a global company, it has a bigger market presence in countries outside of the US and so it needs to tailor its marketing for a world audience. Less than 10% of the worlds population is of European descent, therefore you'd say that Europeans are over represented in the marketing.

cptskippy 10y ago

> There's a conservative backlash going on as people see an effort to make the world more inclusive as a racist attack on their own priviledged position. I would hardly call it a backlash or even outrage. The observation being made is that they're specifically excluding a prominent demographic in their attempts at appearing inclusive or cross cultural. The message being sent isn't "we're all equal", it's "we don't need/want you."

disordinary 10y ago
There is definitely a backlash, we're seeing it in multiple communities and it's culmination in political movements like Brexit and the Trump presidency. Of course they want and need you. Assuming you're white, male, middle class, a resident of the United States, and work in the tech industry - you probably make up the majority of Mozillas workforce and are one of the most privileged people on the planet. As I said, there was also a white male in the pictures.
- bluthru 10y ago
  >Assuming you're white, male, middle class, a resident of the United States, and work in the tech industry - you probably make up the majority of Mozillas workforce Why wouldn't it in the United States? >and are one of the most privileged people on the planet This sort of language rubs me the wrong way; it sort of invalidates the hard work of my ancestors who wanted to create a better life for their descendants.
  - disordinary 10y ago
    Theft, warmongering, and exploitation by your ancestors (and peers) you mean? I realise that this will probably be taken as a troll like statement, but that's not my intention. In all earnestness we do need to take a hard look at ourselves and how we've behaved as a society, you can't own your ancestors hard work without also owning what they did to indigenous and minority people. And also what gives us the right to have all of these advantageous and benefits purely by an accident of birth?
    - bluthru 10y ago
      Every group of humans has stolen, warmongered, and exploited others. The difference is who was able to create the technology to amplify those effects. White people were slaves. (The word slave derives from "Slav".) Africans sold off their own to the slave trade for profit. Whites were the only ones to die for the freedom of another race. There is more slavery occurring today in non-white countries than ever occurred in white countries. You get the point--it's not so black and white. Europe had practically no slaves, but that didn't stop Europeans from creating societies with the best quality of life. >And also what gives us the right to have all of these advantageous and benefits purely by an accident of birth? Humanity should only move as fast as the slowest person? Are you questioning the inherent genetic motivation for parents to care more about their offspring and community than someone on the other side of the world? It's wrong for a child to inherit what his ancestors built but right for someone on the other side of the world to inherit what someone else's ancestors built?
      - disordinary 10y ago
        That's exactly right, and it's still going. But we have the opportunity to stop it, and it starts by being more inclusive and projecting a friendly image to everyone. :) You should take a look at the Waitangi tribunal in New Zealand which redresses historical injustices to the Maori, it's not perfect but is a good illustration on a society owning up to its mistakes and trying to fix them and returns billions of dollars worth of assets to Iwi. The other thing that you seem to forget is that Mozilla is a global company, it has a bigger market presence in countries outside of the US and so it needs to tailor its marketing for a world audience. Less than 10% of the worlds population is of European descent, therefore you'd say that Europeans are over represented in the marketing.