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This issue solves itself once South Eastern US states are submerged due to global flooding and thus lose the electoral votes.

legodt 10y ago
Coal and oil are a major industry outside of the south east. The Dakotas are big in that and so is utah
- sverige 10y ago
  And PA, West Virginia, Ohio, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas.
umanwizard 10y ago
Not if New York is submerged at the same time and California dies out due to drought.
- zbyte64 10y ago
  The catastrophic almond milk shortages will kill everyone before then.
Diederich 10y ago
I think that there will be a lot more carnage (and I don't use that word lightly) associated with climate change via extreme weather well before there's really substantial sea level rise. Specifically, I think there's a chance that, worldwide, it will get more difficult to find places that basic food crops can be grown with sufficient reliability, due to extremes in heat, cold, storms, drought and flooding. According to the data I've seen, on a worldwide average, this hasn't started happening yet, but it already happening in some regions.
- howlin 10y ago
  The Russian and Canadian permafrost tundras will be incredibly productive farmland once they thaw. The main food problems will come near the equator, where people tend to be poorer. They'll lose farm land as well as fish stock in the oceans.
  - Diederich 10y ago
    Indeed. That's been the traditional wisdom, which I was also on board with for a long time. What I'm concerned about is 'weather weirding'. On average, everything gets warmer, but because there's a lot more overall energy, the highs get higher, and the lows get lower, along with more extreme rain/flooding, along with more extreme drought. And, of course, a lot more intense storms. I hope I am wrong, and it seems like the analysis of this line of thought is just starting to ramp up. Anecdotally, it's why, for example, we got something like 10 or 12 '100 year' and '500 year' weather events in the US in 2016.
  - nikdaheratik 10y ago
    Except that they'll also emit more methane as they thaw which could drive temperatures even higher in the interim. And it will also cause precipitation patterns to be more erratic, which is bad for farming in general.
antisthenes 10y ago
By the time that happens, voting and elections will be the least of your concerns (as they should already be now)

legodt 10y ago

Coal and oil are a major industry outside of the south east. The Dakotas are big in that and so is utah

sverige 10y ago
And PA, West Virginia, Ohio, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas.

umanwizard 10y ago

Not if New York is submerged at the same time and California dies out due to drought.

zbyte64 10y ago
The catastrophic almond milk shortages will kill everyone before then.

Diederich 10y ago

I think that there will be a lot more carnage (and I don't use that word lightly) associated with climate change via extreme weather well before there's really substantial sea level rise. Specifically, I think there's a chance that, worldwide, it will get more difficult to find places that basic food crops can be grown with sufficient reliability, due to extremes in heat, cold, storms, drought and flooding. According to the data I've seen, on a worldwide average, this hasn't started happening yet, but it already happening in some regions.

howlin 10y ago
The Russian and Canadian permafrost tundras will be incredibly productive farmland once they thaw. The main food problems will come near the equator, where people tend to be poorer. They'll lose farm land as well as fish stock in the oceans.
- Diederich 10y ago
  Indeed. That's been the traditional wisdom, which I was also on board with for a long time. What I'm concerned about is 'weather weirding'. On average, everything gets warmer, but because there's a lot more overall energy, the highs get higher, and the lows get lower, along with more extreme rain/flooding, along with more extreme drought. And, of course, a lot more intense storms. I hope I am wrong, and it seems like the analysis of this line of thought is just starting to ramp up. Anecdotally, it's why, for example, we got something like 10 or 12 '100 year' and '500 year' weather events in the US in 2016.
- nikdaheratik 10y ago
  Except that they'll also emit more methane as they thaw which could drive temperatures even higher in the interim. And it will also cause precipitation patterns to be more erratic, which is bad for farming in general.

antisthenes 10y ago

By the time that happens, voting and elections will be the least of your concerns (as they should already be now)