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> then you probably shouldn't do it, ever. You must be fun at parties. That's a great means of clean living but as a rule for everyone to follow I think its

> then you probably shouldn't do it, ever. You must be fun at parties. That's a great means of clean living but as a rule for everyone to follow I think its a touch strict. Also our culture has some curious ideas about children and what about the world to shield them from. The dastardly lie of Santa and the general premise that innocence should be preserved instead of teaching them the truth of the world is one clear example of our strange interactions with our progeny. Often concerns about swearing especially are very redundant around children and arguably selfish. One doesn't swear around children because they might use the word with frequency and embarrass the parent not because there is any detriment in the child being exposed to swearing.

tabeth 10y ago
Can you explain this "you must be fun at parties" comment I see often? And I am very fun at parties. I fail to see what cursing, drinking, smoking, etc has to do with being a fun person.
- Quarrelsome 10y ago
  The youthful idea is that parties are to be debauched to an extent. So being strictly straight laced makes people less comfortable about being debauched. Ultimately though it comes down to your post: > then you probably shouldn't do it, ever. assuming (somewhat, not much but a little, the "personally" at the start saves it) that people should be like you. Conversely I feel that everyone should be everything they want to be. Drunk, smoked, high, clean, religious, atheist, etc. There is no "better" because there is no one objective context, there is just different and many.
Fnoord 10y ago
> The dastardly lie of Santa and the general premise that innocence should be preserved instead of teaching them the truth of the world is one clear example of our strange interactions with our progeny. It breeds them so they get ready to accept the lie of [a] God (and a prophet). I, for one, want to raise my children to think critical of such folklore, religion, and cults (pretty much the same to me anyway).

tabeth 10y ago

Can you explain this "you must be fun at parties" comment I see often? And I am very fun at parties. I fail to see what cursing, drinking, smoking, etc has to do with being a fun person.

Quarrelsome 10y ago
The youthful idea is that parties are to be debauched to an extent. So being strictly straight laced makes people less comfortable about being debauched. Ultimately though it comes down to your post: > then you probably shouldn't do it, ever. assuming (somewhat, not much but a little, the "personally" at the start saves it) that people should be like you. Conversely I feel that everyone should be everything they want to be. Drunk, smoked, high, clean, religious, atheist, etc. There is no "better" because there is no one objective context, there is just different and many.

Fnoord 10y ago

> The dastardly lie of Santa and the general premise that innocence should be preserved instead of teaching them the truth of the world is one clear example of our strange interactions with our progeny. It breeds them so they get ready to accept the lie of [a] God (and a prophet). I, for one, want to raise my children to think critical of such folklore, religion, and cults (pretty much the same to me anyway).