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Honestly, the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface. My biggest issue with it's removal is that they didn't replace it with another analog i

Honestly, the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface. My biggest issue with it's removal is that they didn't replace it with another analog interface. I believe that the DAC should live in the phone, leaving the headphone to merely to deal with a simple analog signal. I haven't jumped into the wireless bandwagon, bc the wire has never bothered me. On top of that I have a great battery and DAC in the phone already, I really don't want to be bothered with charging one more thing. If they had adopted a new standard interface that would have been great. Hell I would even be ok with it being usbc if that meant that the jack was standard. It's this non-standard interface that has me considering not buying a new iPhone. I don't care about the loss of the analog jack as much as the non-standard wired option that's left.

ProAm 10y ago
> the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface Ancient, but MASSIVELY used, and affordable. There are finally high quality affordable wired headphones out there that I can use between multiple devices. Removing it forces people to spend significantly more money on a ancillary accessory that is not guaranteed to work across multiple devices. It was a money grab.
- exabrial 10y ago
  If I'm taking an international flight, I have to carry headphones to use the in-flight entertainment. Whether or not Apple likes it or not, the headphone is here to stay for a very long time. There is _also_ not enough wireless bandwidth available for an entire plane of people to simultaneously support 250 different stereo audio streams in such a small area. ...or a crowded office. I have a really nice pair of IEMs I had molded to my ears from Alclair Audio. They're already expensive enough, there's not reason to add the inconvenience of batteries, latency, and bandwidth competition.
  - remarkEon 10y ago
    Curious. I see more and more of the in-flight entertainment systems including USB chargers on them - for charging, not listening. My experience on flights where I use the analog jack is that it's usually a terrible experience, in terms of audio quality. IFF the USC-C standard becomes more ubiquitous, this might be rendered a moot point. Of course, I do not know if the USB-C has been tested for the kind of brutal, constant usage that would be common on aircraft so I might be completely wrong.

ProAm 10y ago

> the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface Ancient, but MASSIVELY used, and affordable. There are finally high quality affordable wired headphones out there that I can use between multiple devices. Removing it forces people to spend significantly more money on a ancillary accessory that is not guaranteed to work across multiple devices. It was a money grab.

exabrial 10y ago
If I'm taking an international flight, I have to carry headphones to use the in-flight entertainment. Whether or not Apple likes it or not, the headphone is here to stay for a very long time. There is _also_ not enough wireless bandwidth available for an entire plane of people to simultaneously support 250 different stereo audio streams in such a small area. ...or a crowded office. I have a really nice pair of IEMs I had molded to my ears from Alclair Audio. They're already expensive enough, there's not reason to add the inconvenience of batteries, latency, and bandwidth competition.
- remarkEon 10y ago
  Curious. I see more and more of the in-flight entertainment systems including USB chargers on them - for charging, not listening. My experience on flights where I use the analog jack is that it's usually a terrible experience, in terms of audio quality. IFF the USC-C standard becomes more ubiquitous, this might be rendered a moot point. Of course, I do not know if the USB-C has been tested for the kind of brutal, constant usage that would be common on aircraft so I might be completely wrong.