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> I think the union will fall apart after votes in e.g. Italy. What vote exactly?

alkonaut 10y ago
Future referendums on leaving the EU, in core EU countries. There are more or less advanced plans or propositions in many EU countries although none have yet had a proper referendum (and doing so in a Eurozone country would be more complicated than Brexit)
- tobltobs 10y ago
  "There are more or less advanced plans or propositions in many EU countries." Citation needed.
  - alkonaut 10y ago
    Marine Le Pen (3rd party leader in France) demands a referendum. A leader of the 3rd party in Germany (Die Linke) demands the same thing. Luckily these countries are among the least likely to leave.
    - tobltobs 10y ago
      Marine Le Pens demands == advanced plans ?
      - alkonaut 10y ago
        In her party, yes. If they don't get power it's all nothing of course.
        NetStrikeForce 10y ago
        No offense, but you're a bit deluded and confusing wishes with reality. Also, you didn't answer my question: What vote exactly? You mentioned Italy, so I guess it had something to do with Italy - however you haven't answered.
        alkonaut 10y ago
        > What vote exactly? I'm talking about future referendums. Those can be held in any European country where either a EU-critical party wins power, or a popular demand calls for it (such calls recently failed in Finland, for example, although a referendum had it been held would never have resulted in an exit). So to be very clear- There are no planned exit referendums, there have been no other such referendums than the Brexit vote, and without petitions or power shifts there are no such votes on the horizon. So by "What votes" I mean e.g a vote under LePen or the next Italian government. Not sure what you think I "wish", I certainly don't hope for any such referendums around Europe.
        NetStrikeForce 10y ago
        > I'm talking about future referendums. Those can be held in any European country where either a EU-critical party wins power, or a popular demand calls for it (such calls recently failed in Finland, for example, although a referendum had it been held would never have resulted in an exit). No, you are not. You referenced a vote in Italy. There was a referendum in Italy totally unrelated to any of the "what ifs" you're spilling here. > So to be very clear- There are no planned exit referendums, there have been no other such referendums than the Brexit vote, and without petitions or power shifts there are no such votes on the horizon. So by "What votes" I mean e.g a vote under LePen or the next Italian government. What next Italian government? Do you think M5S does even stand a chance? > Not sure what you think I "wish", I certainly don't hope for any such referendums around Europe. Of course mate.

Future referendums on leaving the EU, in core EU countries. There are more or less advanced plans or propositions in many EU countries although none have yet had a proper referendum (and doing so in a Eurozone country would be more complicated than Brexit)

tobltobs 10y ago
"There are more or less advanced plans or propositions in many EU countries." Citation needed.
- alkonaut 10y ago
  Marine Le Pen (3rd party leader in France) demands a referendum. A leader of the 3rd party in Germany (Die Linke) demands the same thing. Luckily these countries are among the least likely to leave.
  - tobltobs 10y ago
    Marine Le Pens demands == advanced plans ?
    - alkonaut 10y ago
      In her party, yes. If they don't get power it's all nothing of course.
      - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
        No offense, but you're a bit deluded and confusing wishes with reality. Also, you didn't answer my question: What vote exactly? You mentioned Italy, so I guess it had something to do with Italy - however you haven't answered.
        alkonaut 10y ago
        > What vote exactly? I'm talking about future referendums. Those can be held in any European country where either a EU-critical party wins power, or a popular demand calls for it (such calls recently failed in Finland, for example, although a referendum had it been held would never have resulted in an exit). So to be very clear- There are no planned exit referendums, there have been no other such referendums than the Brexit vote, and without petitions or power shifts there are no such votes on the horizon. So by "What votes" I mean e.g a vote under LePen or the next Italian government. Not sure what you think I "wish", I certainly don't hope for any such referendums around Europe.
        NetStrikeForce 10y ago
        > I'm talking about future referendums. Those can be held in any European country where either a EU-critical party wins power, or a popular demand calls for it (such calls recently failed in Finland, for example, although a referendum had it been held would never have resulted in an exit). No, you are not. You referenced a vote in Italy. There was a referendum in Italy totally unrelated to any of the "what ifs" you're spilling here. > So to be very clear- There are no planned exit referendums, there have been no other such referendums than the Brexit vote, and without petitions or power shifts there are no such votes on the horizon. So by "What votes" I mean e.g a vote under LePen or the next Italian government. What next Italian government? Do you think M5S does even stand a chance? > Not sure what you think I "wish", I certainly don't hope for any such referendums around Europe. Of course mate.