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> he's not a tech guy Well, he kind of is, but not in a way that appeals to most tech geek crowds. He has a degree in Industrial Engineering which (defined by

by dottrap 10y ago

> he's not a tech guy Well, he kind of is, but not in a way that appeals to most tech geek crowds. He has a degree in Industrial Engineering which (defined by Wikipedia): "work to eliminate waste of time, money, materials, man-hours, machine time, energy and other resources that do not generate value". Engineering to make things more efficient and reduce waste may not be "tech sexy", but to make it happen involves real technology and engineering.

John23832 10y ago
True, but it seems his focus is more process engineering than what you and I would consider "techie".
ProAm 10y ago
It took an Industrial Engineer to get rid of the headphone jack.
- bluejekyll 10y ago
  Honestly, the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface. My biggest issue with it's removal is that they didn't replace it with another analog interface. I believe that the DAC should live in the phone, leaving the headphone to merely to deal with a simple analog signal. I haven't jumped into the wireless bandwagon, bc the wire has never bothered me. On top of that I have a great battery and DAC in the phone already, I really don't want to be bothered with charging one more thing. If they had adopted a new standard interface that would have been great. Hell I would even be ok with it being usbc if that meant that the jack was standard. It's this non-standard interface that has me considering not buying a new iPhone. I don't care about the loss of the analog jack as much as the non-standard wired option that's left.
  - ProAm 10y ago
    > the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface Ancient, but MASSIVELY used, and affordable. There are finally high quality affordable wired headphones out there that I can use between multiple devices. Removing it forces people to spend significantly more money on a ancillary accessory that is not guaranteed to work across multiple devices. It was a money grab.
    - exabrial 10y ago
      If I'm taking an international flight, I have to carry headphones to use the in-flight entertainment. Whether or not Apple likes it or not, the headphone is here to stay for a very long time. There is _also_ not enough wireless bandwidth available for an entire plane of people to simultaneously support 250 different stereo audio streams in such a small area. ...or a crowded office. I have a really nice pair of IEMs I had molded to my ears from Alclair Audio. They're already expensive enough, there's not reason to add the inconvenience of batteries, latency, and bandwidth competition.
      - remarkEon 10y ago
        Curious. I see more and more of the in-flight entertainment systems including USB chargers on them - for charging, not listening. My experience on flights where I use the analog jack is that it's usually a terrible experience, in terms of audio quality. IFF the USC-C standard becomes more ubiquitous, this might be rendered a moot point. Of course, I do not know if the USB-C has been tested for the kind of brutal, constant usage that would be common on aircraft so I might be completely wrong.

by dottrap 10y ago

John23832 10y ago

True, but it seems his focus is more process engineering than what you and I would consider "techie".

ProAm 10y ago

It took an Industrial Engineer to get rid of the headphone jack.

bluejekyll 10y ago
Honestly, the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface. My biggest issue with it's removal is that they didn't replace it with another analog interface. I believe that the DAC should live in the phone, leaving the headphone to merely to deal with a simple analog signal. I haven't jumped into the wireless bandwagon, bc the wire has never bothered me. On top of that I have a great battery and DAC in the phone already, I really don't want to be bothered with charging one more thing. If they had adopted a new standard interface that would have been great. Hell I would even be ok with it being usbc if that meant that the jack was standard. It's this non-standard interface that has me considering not buying a new iPhone. I don't care about the loss of the analog jack as much as the non-standard wired option that's left.
- ProAm 10y ago
  > the headphone jack while ubiquitous, is an ancient interface Ancient, but MASSIVELY used, and affordable. There are finally high quality affordable wired headphones out there that I can use between multiple devices. Removing it forces people to spend significantly more money on a ancillary accessory that is not guaranteed to work across multiple devices. It was a money grab.
  - exabrial 10y ago
    If I'm taking an international flight, I have to carry headphones to use the in-flight entertainment. Whether or not Apple likes it or not, the headphone is here to stay for a very long time. There is _also_ not enough wireless bandwidth available for an entire plane of people to simultaneously support 250 different stereo audio streams in such a small area. ...or a crowded office. I have a really nice pair of IEMs I had molded to my ears from Alclair Audio. They're already expensive enough, there's not reason to add the inconvenience of batteries, latency, and bandwidth competition.
    - remarkEon 10y ago
      Curious. I see more and more of the in-flight entertainment systems including USB chargers on them - for charging, not listening. My experience on flights where I use the analog jack is that it's usually a terrible experience, in terms of audio quality. IFF the USC-C standard becomes more ubiquitous, this might be rendered a moot point. Of course, I do not know if the USB-C has been tested for the kind of brutal, constant usage that would be common on aircraft so I might be completely wrong.