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It's not so much the skyline in SF, it's that somehow "not building anything" has become a sort of "progressive" litmus test - if you are in favor of making any
by aaronbwebber 10y ago
It's not so much the skyline in SF, it's that somehow "not building anything" has become a sort of "progressive" litmus test - if you are in favor of making any changes that would result in more housing being developed, you are a neocon shill for developers who wants to "Manhattan-ize" all of our neighborhoods, and if you want to continue preventing any substantial amount of housing from being built, you are a true progressive defending the poor and downtrodden. And everyone in the Bay Area wants to be a progressive, so you end up with this weird groupthink where because "not letting developers make profits" is progressive and everyone identifies as progressive there's this incredible opposition to making the policy changes that would result in more housing getting built.
It's really weird and makes no sense to me, especially since the people who get really fucked by this are people working in services who end up commuting from places where housing is cheap like Tracy all the way to San Jose where all the jobs are, who are exactly the kind of people you would expect "progressives" to be doing anything to help.
Also, San Francisco (and the Peninsula) really don't need to develop anything really tall, they just need to develop a lot more 3-8 story buildings, particularly in areas that are currently single-family homes. Nearly all of the Peninsula and most of San Francisco are currently single-family homes on ~1/4 acre lots, i.e. very suburban character.
- Tempest1981 10y agoIt's happening in Menlo Park and Mountain View. BTW, I see mostly 6000-7000 sq ft lots, which is 1/6 or 1/7 of an acre. But how do you replace those with 3-8 story buildings? Those people have lived there for 20-30 years. Do you declare a housing crisis and evict them?
- sjg007 10y agoYou zone for multifamily which will raise the value even more. Then a developer will buy it and put up condos.
- Tempest1981 10y agoAre there examples of where this was done? I would love to know how fast it occurs, and see a graph of adoption/change over time. I would imagine 5-10% of people would sell (to the developer) immediately. But those lots probably wouldn't be adjacent. Maybe after 3-5 years, enough adjacent lots could be found to make it appealing to a developer. (The developer wants economy of scale, and economy of multiple units sharing common space.) Where is the tipping point? If the developer offered to buy homes at 20% over market rate, I wonder how the graph would change, vs. market rate. But the developer needs to start buying immediately, yet can't recoup their investment for several years. They may not like that.