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Is everyone here forgetting the millions given by foreign nations?? The outright collusion with media? The lack of sensitivity to LGBT rights? The fact that the

Is everyone here forgetting the millions given by foreign nations?? The outright collusion with media? The lack of sensitivity to LGBT rights? The fact that they never discussed how to actually solve the Nation's problems, only worked on crafting a message to the public, and having "public and private" policies? The family connections to Russia that everyone conveniently ignores lately? Or most chilling of all, the cryptic codespeak used in several emails?

mongmong 10y ago
All that tells me is she was a politician playing the political game. Or do you think it is mutually exclusive to play politics and caring about doing good things with power? Do you think emails between Sanders campaign staff would not be discussing talking points and tactics if their campaign emails were leaked?
- MicroBerto 10y ago
  I'm upset enough that our politicians take monstrous amounts of money from corporate lobbyists... let alone foreign nations in questionable areas!! That part is unforgivable. Justify it however you want, there was some very chilling revelations in those emails. I want politicians solving problems, not building press angles.
  - lawless123 10y ago
    >there was some very chilling revelations in those emails. The most chilling part was that having your pizza restaurant mentioned in the emails can lead to lunatics showing up with guns to threaten your staff.
  - mongmong 10y ago
    I keep hearing vague mentions of corruption and chilling revelations from these email leaks, but i have never once been given a link to a particular email thread demonstrating this. Care to share a link?
davexunit 10y ago
When the alternative is Hitler, you pick Hillary.
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asveikau 10y ago
> The family connections to Russia that everyone conveniently ignores lately? Remind me, which side of that election is now alleged to have been talking to FSB the whole time?
- MicroBerto 10y ago
  First off, arguing "against the other side" has nothing to do with these emails and is offtopic. We're referencing what was discovered in the leaked emails. And inside, you can find documented proof of the Uranium One thing and their concerns over it.
  - asveikau 10y ago
    You may consider it a fallacy, but I am making the point that Trump supporters attacking Hillary over Russia policy smells of the old "attack your own weakness" strategy of American politics, often attributed to Karl Rove and the like.
afterburner 10y ago
What millions? The same collusion that had all media screaming about emails all the time? The default support for LGBT rights? What family connections to Russia?; were they in the same league as with Putin is doing with Trump? What codespeak are you talking about? You mean policies you don't personally like?
- MicroBerto 10y ago
  What millions? How about these: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22030#efmABAADKADLADiAEeAExAFbAH_AJwAKXAOWAO2 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22030#efmABAADK... What Russia family connections? How about these: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (see page 61 of the attachment) https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1127 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1127 Why the concern if there's nothing to be concerned about? (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/225 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/225, https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/370 https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/370) Regarding codespeak... it's starting to go mainstream. Google what Ben Swann's been up to.
  - afterburner 10y ago
    The Clinton Foundation donations were shown to be benign and not give any additional access to the Clintons. The Clinton foundation is a reputable charity that actually does good. Or do you think that anytime money is mentioned bad things are happening? So then how do you feel about Trump? Does simply having 'Russia' show up in a word search mean something sinister? If you're like this about Clinton (much ado about nothing, exaggeration of any tiny mention of anything), why aren't you absolutely nuclear about Trump, who has actual solid links to actual corruption and potential treasonous behaviour?
    - MicroBerto 10y ago
      Shown by who? The Clinton Foundation does good? Like they did in Haiti, right?? It's okay, you just haven't dug deep enough. The key is understanding where the proposed pipelines are located. Hint: they're in line with various overthrown governments; not coincidental. Note that I'm not saying you should dig any deeper, as it's not exactly productive time and this is the job of the investigators, but it's interesting to watch play out. Best question lately is "Where is Eric Braverman?"...
KirinDave 10y ago
> Is everyone here forgetting the millions given by foreign nations?? Not terribly, since we can see where a lot of it went and we're not terribly upset with the outcomes? > The outright collusion with media? Yeah emails that emails went emails really emails well emails, right emails? > The lack of sensitivity to LGBT rights? Clinton has a mixed track record on LGBT rights, but I trust her infinitely more than I do Trump, because her recent track record is much better. If you think she'd get a free pass for screwing over the community, you're dead wrong. > The fact that they never discussed how to actually solve the Nation's problems, only worked on crafting a message to the public, and having "public and private" policies? It.. uh... was an election campaign, dude. They're talking about being elected. But also, there ARE a ton of emails in there talking about the policy messaging. Mostly how to frame it to different people, as framing matters. > The family connections to Russia that everyone conveniently ignores lately? If Russian connections were a problem Trump would be forced to step down in favor of Pence, now wouldn't he? > Or most chilling of all, the cryptic codespeak used in several emails? Did you use your pizzagate decoder ring to figure out where they hid the girls yet?
- rjeli 10y ago
  > Did you use your pizzagate decoder ring to figure out where they hid the girls yet? I miss detox "week".
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    You mean the conservative control week? The vast majority of stories that ban filtered were about proposed human rights abuses by Trump's advisory board, and subsequent details about how foreign intelligence agencies helped the conservative candidate without the hobble of campaign finance laws or ethical considerations. Or are you mad I'm here, being pugnacious and irreverent about the more absurd allegations leveled against various candidates (which I have done on behalf of Trump as well, if you check my post history far enough). What, exactly, do you miss? And if so, why then did you click into this thread and read into something nested 3 deep? I submit if you cast a vote in this country you should not be afforded the luxury of looking away from the results of that vote.

mongmong 10y ago

All that tells me is she was a politician playing the political game. Or do you think it is mutually exclusive to play politics and caring about doing good things with power? Do you think emails between Sanders campaign staff would not be discussing talking points and tactics if their campaign emails were leaked?

MicroBerto 10y ago
I'm upset enough that our politicians take monstrous amounts of money from corporate lobbyists... let alone foreign nations in questionable areas!! That part is unforgivable. Justify it however you want, there was some very chilling revelations in those emails. I want politicians solving problems, not building press angles.
- lawless123 10y ago
  >there was some very chilling revelations in those emails. The most chilling part was that having your pizza restaurant mentioned in the emails can lead to lunatics showing up with guns to threaten your staff.
- mongmong 10y ago
  I keep hearing vague mentions of corruption and chilling revelations from these email leaks, but i have never once been given a link to a particular email thread demonstrating this. Care to share a link?

davexunit 10y ago

When the alternative is Hitler, you pick Hillary.

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asveikau 10y ago

> The family connections to Russia that everyone conveniently ignores lately? Remind me, which side of that election is now alleged to have been talking to FSB the whole time?

MicroBerto 10y ago
First off, arguing "against the other side" has nothing to do with these emails and is offtopic. We're referencing what was discovered in the leaked emails. And inside, you can find documented proof of the Uranium One thing and their concerns over it.
- asveikau 10y ago
  You may consider it a fallacy, but I am making the point that Trump supporters attacking Hillary over Russia policy smells of the old "attack your own weakness" strategy of American politics, often attributed to Karl Rove and the like.

afterburner 10y ago

What millions? The same collusion that had all media screaming about emails all the time? The default support for LGBT rights? What family connections to Russia?; were they in the same league as with Putin is doing with Trump? What codespeak are you talking about? You mean policies you don't personally like?

MicroBerto 10y ago
What millions? How about these: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22030#efmABAADKADLADiAEeAExAFbAH_AJwAKXAOWAO2 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22030#efmABAADK... What Russia family connections? How about these: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 (see page 61 of the attachment) https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1127 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1127 Why the concern if there's nothing to be concerned about? (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/225 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/225, https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/370 https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/370) Regarding codespeak... it's starting to go mainstream. Google what Ben Swann's been up to.
- afterburner 10y ago
  The Clinton Foundation donations were shown to be benign and not give any additional access to the Clintons. The Clinton foundation is a reputable charity that actually does good. Or do you think that anytime money is mentioned bad things are happening? So then how do you feel about Trump? Does simply having 'Russia' show up in a word search mean something sinister? If you're like this about Clinton (much ado about nothing, exaggeration of any tiny mention of anything), why aren't you absolutely nuclear about Trump, who has actual solid links to actual corruption and potential treasonous behaviour?
  - MicroBerto 10y ago
    Shown by who? The Clinton Foundation does good? Like they did in Haiti, right?? It's okay, you just haven't dug deep enough. The key is understanding where the proposed pipelines are located. Hint: they're in line with various overthrown governments; not coincidental. Note that I'm not saying you should dig any deeper, as it's not exactly productive time and this is the job of the investigators, but it's interesting to watch play out. Best question lately is "Where is Eric Braverman?"...

KirinDave 10y ago

> Is everyone here forgetting the millions given by foreign nations?? Not terribly, since we can see where a lot of it went and we're not terribly upset with the outcomes? > The outright collusion with media? Yeah emails that emails went emails really emails well emails, right emails? > The lack of sensitivity to LGBT rights? Clinton has a mixed track record on LGBT rights, but I trust her infinitely more than I do Trump, because her recent track record is much better. If you think she'd get a free pass for screwing over the community, you're dead wrong. > The fact that they never discussed how to actually solve the Nation's problems, only worked on crafting a message to the public, and having "public and private" policies? It.. uh... was an election campaign, dude. They're talking about being elected. But also, there ARE a ton of emails in there talking about the policy messaging. Mostly how to frame it to different people, as framing matters. > The family connections to Russia that everyone conveniently ignores lately? If Russian connections were a problem Trump would be forced to step down in favor of Pence, now wouldn't he? > Or most chilling of all, the cryptic codespeak used in several emails? Did you use your pizzagate decoder ring to figure out where they hid the girls yet?

rjeli 10y ago
> Did you use your pizzagate decoder ring to figure out where they hid the girls yet? I miss detox "week".
- KirinDave 10y ago
  You mean the conservative control week? The vast majority of stories that ban filtered were about proposed human rights abuses by Trump's advisory board, and subsequent details about how foreign intelligence agencies helped the conservative candidate without the hobble of campaign finance laws or ethical considerations. Or are you mad I'm here, being pugnacious and irreverent about the more absurd allegations leveled against various candidates (which I have done on behalf of Trump as well, if you check my post history far enough). What, exactly, do you miss? And if so, why then did you click into this thread and read into something nested 3 deep? I submit if you cast a vote in this country you should not be afforded the luxury of looking away from the results of that vote.