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I like the broad idea, and I appreciate their making this open, but this design leaves me cold. It's basically a Notational Velocity with central servers and o

I like the broad idea, and I appreciate their making this open, but this design leaves me cold. It's basically a Notational Velocity with central servers and one of those clumsy toggle-to-preview Markdown interfaces. Between stuff like this and Workflowy, I think there'd be a market for a cloud-based version of org-mode with nice, non-Emacsy front ends that supported the key org-mode capabilities.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
But that will take forever to make. Even for the key subsets, because org is huge. And if you use the spreadsheets, forget it. And some stuff, like babel (which is probably important to devs), depends on other emacs packages...
- axlprose 10y ago
  is it really that important for a non-emacs client to support 100% of org's features? You can still always open complicated org files in emacs if you really need to, but that shouldn't stop people from attempting to develop a lighter client alternative that's more convenient for the browser or mobile, for example. Even just using a subset of orgs features, it can still be significantly more powerful than just plain old markdown. Most of my org notes would be ok to edit with nothing more complicated than the labels+tags+checkboxes+tables features. Would be mildly annoying to manually update a few things here and there, but it'd still be far better than nothing.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    >is it really that important for a non-emacs client to support 100% of org's features? No. Even babel's not really necessary. But even implementing a broad subset might be hard. However, there is already rudimentary support for the org format outside org, so it may not be that bad.
  - Semiapies 10y ago
    Something along these lines is what I'm imagining. I'll have to poke at it.
- OvidNaso 10y ago
  Well, there are already a several org-mode parsers[0]. Some of them are quite good too. 0. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/
creativityland 10y ago
Agreed, I think there is room for improvements and the design leaves me cold. I found https://www.taskcade.com https://www.taskcade.com to be a good alternative to Workflowy, but it lacks native mobile right now.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago

But that will take forever to make. Even for the key subsets, because org is huge. And if you use the spreadsheets, forget it. And some stuff, like babel (which is probably important to devs), depends on other emacs packages...

axlprose 10y ago
is it really that important for a non-emacs client to support 100% of org's features? You can still always open complicated org files in emacs if you really need to, but that shouldn't stop people from attempting to develop a lighter client alternative that's more convenient for the browser or mobile, for example. Even just using a subset of orgs features, it can still be significantly more powerful than just plain old markdown. Most of my org notes would be ok to edit with nothing more complicated than the labels+tags+checkboxes+tables features. Would be mildly annoying to manually update a few things here and there, but it'd still be far better than nothing.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  >is it really that important for a non-emacs client to support 100% of org's features? No. Even babel's not really necessary. But even implementing a broad subset might be hard. However, there is already rudimentary support for the org format outside org, so it may not be that bad.
- Semiapies 10y ago
  Something along these lines is what I'm imagining. I'll have to poke at it.
OvidNaso 10y ago
Well, there are already a several org-mode parsers[0]. Some of them are quite good too. 0. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/

creativityland 10y ago

Agreed, I think there is room for improvements and the design leaves me cold. I found https://www.taskcade.com https://www.taskcade.com to be a good alternative to Workflowy, but it lacks native mobile right now.