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Don't expect a reversal. This meeting will be because staff are seeing their peers suddenly hating them on their favourite forums, and execs are seeing the medi

by bonaldi 16y ago

Don't expect a reversal. This meeting will be because staff are seeing their peers suddenly hating them on their favourite forums, and execs are seeing the media having a pop. It's to reassure the troops, to tell them "we're right, here's our strategy, the rest of the world are idiots, carry on". Forget Google, these guys are the new Microsoft.

Andys 16y ago
Reminds me of the all-hands meeting Microsoft had a few years ago concerning security flaws.
- _pius 16y ago
  Microsoft made a tremendous turn-around in security after that meeting ...
  - _flag 16y ago
    I think that may be the point.
    - abstractbill 16y ago
      Prior to the Microsoft all-hands meeting though, MS hadn't been deliberately making insecure software. Once they decided to focus on it, all they had to do was to execute. On the other hand, Facebook's recent privacy changes have (presumably) come from the top. So if they call an all-hands meeting, it seems like it can only be to either say "we've changed our minds", or "the public are wrong, and we won't change our minds". I can't see much of an actionable outcome for FB staff, unlike after the MS meeting.
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MikeCapone 16y ago
Warning, I'm going to plug my personal blog: > Forget Google, these guys are the new Microsoft. I wrote something about this recently. I think the reason why Google and Facebook are acting very differently can be explained in good part by the kind of incentives that they face (they're very different): http://michaelgr.com/2010/02/15/why-google-is-not-like-microsoft-or-facebook/ http://michaelgr.com/2010/02/15/why-google-is-not-like-micro...
- ekanes 16y ago
  Instead of plugging your blog, why not put what you said here? It's your content, just copy and paste and link to your blog at the bottom. (If you do a good job, people will check you out.)
  - jemfinch 16y ago
    Are you really complaining because he used proper data normalization?
paulnelligan 16y ago
My thoughts exactly 'whoops we're getting bad publicity, how do we deal with this bad publicity yet still cream all these profits by compromising our userbase's privacy, we need some innovative marketing strategies here people' how likely is the following scenario? : 'well, actually, we have been kind of assholes on the whole privacy issue. Let's respect people a little more. Sure, we might not cream as much profit from it, but the world might actually be a better place as a result'
- mrvir 16y ago
  Not very likely scenario as the CEO has publicly stated that he's not a big believer in Internet privacy. It is already evident that they are ready to take bad press in slowly loosening the privacy. The real issue that Facebook has with privacy is how to get rid of it. My two cents: FB is set out to collect as much social info about as many people as possible. Probably they have much more data about the folks than we know and that can seen through FB site or API. Their problem is that they cannot openly sell/share that data with partners. So they need to get to the point where they can argue legally (guessing this will end up in court at least here in Europe) that the members have permitted them to collect all that info.

by bonaldi 16y ago

Andys 16y ago

Reminds me of the all-hands meeting Microsoft had a few years ago concerning security flaws.

_pius 16y ago
Microsoft made a tremendous turn-around in security after that meeting ...
- _flag 16y ago
  I think that may be the point.
  - abstractbill 16y ago
    Prior to the Microsoft all-hands meeting though, MS hadn't been deliberately making insecure software. Once they decided to focus on it, all they had to do was to execute. On the other hand, Facebook's recent privacy changes have (presumably) come from the top. So if they call an all-hands meeting, it seems like it can only be to either say "we've changed our minds", or "the public are wrong, and we won't change our minds". I can't see much of an actionable outcome for FB staff, unlike after the MS meeting.

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MikeCapone 16y ago

Warning, I'm going to plug my personal blog: > Forget Google, these guys are the new Microsoft. I wrote something about this recently. I think the reason why Google and Facebook are acting very differently can be explained in good part by the kind of incentives that they face (they're very different): http://michaelgr.com/2010/02/15/why-google-is-not-like-microsoft-or-facebook/ http://michaelgr.com/2010/02/15/why-google-is-not-like-micro...

ekanes 16y ago
Instead of plugging your blog, why not put what you said here? It's your content, just copy and paste and link to your blog at the bottom. (If you do a good job, people will check you out.)
- jemfinch 16y ago
  Are you really complaining because he used proper data normalization?

paulnelligan 16y ago

My thoughts exactly 'whoops we're getting bad publicity, how do we deal with this bad publicity yet still cream all these profits by compromising our userbase's privacy, we need some innovative marketing strategies here people' how likely is the following scenario? : 'well, actually, we have been kind of assholes on the whole privacy issue. Let's respect people a little more. Sure, we might not cream as much profit from it, but the world might actually be a better place as a result'

mrvir 16y ago
Not very likely scenario as the CEO has publicly stated that he's not a big believer in Internet privacy. It is already evident that they are ready to take bad press in slowly loosening the privacy. The real issue that Facebook has with privacy is how to get rid of it. My two cents: FB is set out to collect as much social info about as many people as possible. Probably they have much more data about the folks than we know and that can seen through FB site or API. Their problem is that they cannot openly sell/share that data with partners. So they need to get to the point where they can argue legally (guessing this will end up in court at least here in Europe) that the members have permitted them to collect all that info.