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This looks great! I'm still looking for the best replacement for Vesper [http://vesperapp.co/ http://vesperapp.co/], which the developers abandoned since it was

This looks great! I'm still looking for the best replacement for Vesper [http://vesperapp.co/ http://vesperapp.co/], which the developers abandoned since it wasn't making money. It looks like Standard Notes has a lot of the same features, but part of what I loved about Vesper was how _nice_ the interface was. Standard Notes looks good but I'd love if it had a more Vesper-esque iOS app.

mobitar 10y ago
Vesper-esque apps are more difficult to maintain, and thus inevitably shut down :)
- turdnagel 10y ago
  Could be. I'm not sure what that means, though. Do you mean having a more custom UI?
  - mobitar 10y ago
    Yeah, custom UI is really hard to build and later hard to maintain as SDKs pivot and change. Best to go standard and things will have a higher chance of continuing to work after OS level updates.
jen729w 10y ago
As noted above, Bear is the most Vesper-y thing available IMO. I was just wondering yesterday whether Q Branch knew about Bear and were lamenting the fact that it is, essentially, their app in a different skin. As Gruber has noted on Daring Fireball [1], they seem to have launched at just the wrong time in just the wrong way. For whatever reason, Bear seems to be succeeding. I knew the instant that I installed Bear that I'd love it. It's just nice. That said, the majority of my notes still live in nvALT [2], stored as plain text in Dropbox, sync'd via Simplenote to allow me to use their mobile app. Standard format, distributed all over the place [3]. I can't imagine a scenario that would cause me to lose my notes. [1]: https://daringfireball.net/2016/08/vesper_adieu https://daringfireball.net/2016/08/vesper_adieu [2]: From where, on my Mac, I can Cmd-Shift-E to edit a note in FoldingText for all the Markdown loveliness. [3]: Dropbox, synchronised to multiple machines, one of which stores it on my Synology, which is periodically rsync'd to an external drive which is kept in my girlfriend's house; Simplenote; Time Machine; Backblaze; SuperDuper!

mobitar 10y ago

Vesper-esque apps are more difficult to maintain, and thus inevitably shut down :)

turdnagel 10y ago
Could be. I'm not sure what that means, though. Do you mean having a more custom UI?
- mobitar 10y ago
  Yeah, custom UI is really hard to build and later hard to maintain as SDKs pivot and change. Best to go standard and things will have a higher chance of continuing to work after OS level updates.

jen729w 10y ago

As noted above, Bear is the most Vesper-y thing available IMO. I was just wondering yesterday whether Q Branch knew about Bear and were lamenting the fact that it is, essentially, their app in a different skin. As Gruber has noted on Daring Fireball [1], they seem to have launched at just the wrong time in just the wrong way. For whatever reason, Bear seems to be succeeding. I knew the instant that I installed Bear that I'd love it. It's just nice. That said, the majority of my notes still live in nvALT [2], stored as plain text in Dropbox, sync'd via Simplenote to allow me to use their mobile app. Standard format, distributed all over the place [3]. I can't imagine a scenario that would cause me to lose my notes. [1]: https://daringfireball.net/2016/08/vesper_adieu https://daringfireball.net/2016/08/vesper_adieu [2]: From where, on my Mac, I can Cmd-Shift-E to edit a note in FoldingText for all the Markdown loveliness. [3]: Dropbox, synchronised to multiple machines, one of which stores it on my Synology, which is periodically rsync'd to an external drive which is kept in my girlfriend's house; Simplenote; Time Machine; Backblaze; SuperDuper!