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"May"? We're way past "may". The Arab Spring was catastrophic.
by hendersoon 10y ago
"May"? We're way past "may". The Arab Spring was catastrophic.
- vkou 10y agoWhat part of it can be attributed to Manning..? And what part of it can be contributed to food insecurity, economic downturns, the despots running those countries tightening the screws, the CIA's involvement, a civil war in Iraq, the Department of State jumping on the opportunity to stick it to Putin by destabilizing Assad? Are any other architects of these disasters serving 35 years?
- hendersoon 10y agoThat's impossible to measure quantitatively. It's very clear that the leaks contributed to some degree, much like the email leaks and FBI notes to congress contributed to the election results, but how much? Nobody will ever know.
- vkou 10y agoMy point is that if you want to crucify Manning for starting the Arab Spring, there's a long, long line of people, who were actually responsible for the problems she exposed.
- danenania 10y agoIt was catastrophic because despotism fought back and (mostly) won. But that doesn't mean the uprisings or the actions leading to it were wrong or futile. It's a long road.
- hendersoon 10y agoYes, the results were catastrophic, even though the protests themselves had pure motives. But results matter.