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My understanding is that C4 was a Mac development conference. So I'm not sure why section 3.3.1 of the iPhone developer agreement (and the absence of "outrage"

by credo 16y ago

My understanding is that C4 was a Mac development conference. So I'm not sure why section 3.3.1 of the iPhone developer agreement (and the absence of "outrage" from iPhone developers) should prompt C4 to release itself.

bretthoerner 16y ago
Do you know any developers that use non-MS languages on Windows? Do you think they might be annoyed if MS said "nothing but C# is allowed"? Would they not still be called "Windows developers"?
- DerekL 16y ago
  Microsoft doesn't have any restrictions like that for Windows. But Xbox 360 development is restricted, like other game consoles. You have to get their permission to sell games on disc or through Live.
  - simonsquiff 16y ago
    Except you can use any language or tools you want to develop your 360 games.
orangecat 16y ago
As far as Apple is concerned the Mac is effectively a legacy platform. I'm hoping WWDC will prove me wrong, but I'm not optimistic.
- gonzopancho 16y ago
  Macs aren't legacy as much as they're now for content creation for the other Apple platforms.
  - wmf 16y ago
    So Apple has to keep making Macs, but they don't have to improve OS X. (When's 10.7 coming out?) Not an auspicious sign.
    - DerekL 16y ago
      Next year, maybe? They just released 10.6 last year. Do they need to do a release every year?
      - wmf 16y ago
        10.7 isn't being shown at WWDC, so it probably won't be released in 2011. Since 10.6 had very few visible new features, that's a long time to wait.
        ams1 16y ago
        What new features would you want? I still use Tiger on my primary machine and haven't missed much (outside of performance boosts) in the subsequent releases.
        boucher 16y ago
        There was a time when Apple's ability to ship a new OS every 1.5 years was touted as one if proudest accomplishments. MS was insulted for years over their inability to ship a new version of Windows.
        ericd 16y ago
        Desktop computers (and laptops) aren't advancing at the same rate that they used to. Also, OS X has matured tremendously since its reboot of the Mac OS. Maybe there's just not that much left on the queue.

by credo 16y ago

bretthoerner 16y ago

Do you know any developers that use non-MS languages on Windows? Do you think they might be annoyed if MS said "nothing but C# is allowed"? Would they not still be called "Windows developers"?

DerekL 16y ago
Microsoft doesn't have any restrictions like that for Windows. But Xbox 360 development is restricted, like other game consoles. You have to get their permission to sell games on disc or through Live.
- simonsquiff 16y ago
  Except you can use any language or tools you want to develop your 360 games.

orangecat 16y ago

As far as Apple is concerned the Mac is effectively a legacy platform. I'm hoping WWDC will prove me wrong, but I'm not optimistic.

gonzopancho 16y ago
Macs aren't legacy as much as they're now for content creation for the other Apple platforms.
- wmf 16y ago
  So Apple has to keep making Macs, but they don't have to improve OS X. (When's 10.7 coming out?) Not an auspicious sign.
  - DerekL 16y ago
    Next year, maybe? They just released 10.6 last year. Do they need to do a release every year?
    - wmf 16y ago
      10.7 isn't being shown at WWDC, so it probably won't be released in 2011. Since 10.6 had very few visible new features, that's a long time to wait.
      - ams1 16y ago
        What new features would you want? I still use Tiger on my primary machine and haven't missed much (outside of performance boosts) in the subsequent releases.
        boucher 16y ago
        There was a time when Apple's ability to ship a new OS every 1.5 years was touted as one if proudest accomplishments. MS was insulted for years over their inability to ship a new version of Windows.
        ericd 16y ago
        Desktop computers (and laptops) aren't advancing at the same rate that they used to. Also, OS X has matured tremendously since its reboot of the Mac OS. Maybe there's just not that much left on the queue.