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And I'm sitting here with my brand new 15" MBP, still within the return period, not overly impressed with this machine relative to the price and relative to my

And I'm sitting here with my brand new 15" MBP, still within the return period, not overly impressed with this machine relative to the price and relative to my 2012 machine it replaced.. Is he saying it "will be significantly redesigned in 2017" or "has been significantly redesigned" in 2016? Should I send it back and work on my oldie for another 6 months, letting Apple and other users sort through the variety of issues with the 2016 model? (dongle/port/hub situation, abysmal battery life situation, fledgling and relatively unsupported touchbar situation, touchpad palm rejection / unintentional touchpad situation to name a few).

runeks 10y ago
No, keep it.
NotSammyHagar 10y ago
Yes, return it.
tornadoboy55 10y ago
2015 was the absolute pinnacle for Apple devices. The 6S is amazing. Semi water-resistant, headphone jack, fast NVME storage, fast processor, 3D touch, good movement coprocessor.. Likewise the 13" (not sure about the 15") Pro is an absolutely joy. 10-14h battery life, good screen, good keyboard, normal size trackpad, no touchbar, magsafe..
- ethagknight 10y ago
  I genuinely like the touchbar, and I can see it being something really useful, but its like any early adopter tech, serves little use outside of Apple's stock apps. The huge force touch trackpad is annoying, I have to move my whole arm to avoid touching my pinky to it when switching between typing and mousing. On the flip side, The new SSD is blazing fast. I can fly on the shallow keyboard. For me, it boils down to this: Is Apple going to solve my top 5 issues via software updates in the upcoming months (which I think they can), or are they going to reverse course in 2017 and make the machine they should have released at last year's reveal. Rumor of "significant redesign" is highly concerning. I too loved the 6S, but the 7 is really really fast. I really griped about the headphone jack (still do), but I've heard AirPods are excellent (at least according to Marco and crew on ATP) and have a pair on backorder.
  - tornadoboy55 10y ago
    So far Apple has never produced any audio listening equipment that I (or any other discerning listener) would rate above 'mediocre' in the sound quality department, which is arguably the most important part.
ReverseCold 10y ago
http://i.imgur.com/JBLmKHQh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JBLmKHQh.jpg Well that was a useful question to ask.
ksec 10y ago
Return it, vote with your money, and tell Apple they need a rethink. I dont need or want the touch bar. It felt as a double input UX crash with the touchpad on laptop. What happen to the Apple that only wanted single button mouse. And I cant justify the price hike just because of the touch bar. Although form factor is also at play here, but i felt i would actually want a thicker Macbook Pro just for the Keyboard. Having said that, I really want Touch ID. The sense of security. The memory capacity dont bothers me, I am hoping all of these are just setting the Stage for a much better Mac Line up in 2017, All in on USB-C, All Retina, All SSD.

runeks 10y ago

No, keep it.

NotSammyHagar 10y ago

Yes, return it.

tornadoboy55 10y ago

2015 was the absolute pinnacle for Apple devices. The 6S is amazing. Semi water-resistant, headphone jack, fast NVME storage, fast processor, 3D touch, good movement coprocessor.. Likewise the 13" (not sure about the 15") Pro is an absolutely joy. 10-14h battery life, good screen, good keyboard, normal size trackpad, no touchbar, magsafe..

ethagknight 10y ago
I genuinely like the touchbar, and I can see it being something really useful, but its like any early adopter tech, serves little use outside of Apple's stock apps. The huge force touch trackpad is annoying, I have to move my whole arm to avoid touching my pinky to it when switching between typing and mousing. On the flip side, The new SSD is blazing fast. I can fly on the shallow keyboard. For me, it boils down to this: Is Apple going to solve my top 5 issues via software updates in the upcoming months (which I think they can), or are they going to reverse course in 2017 and make the machine they should have released at last year's reveal. Rumor of "significant redesign" is highly concerning. I too loved the 6S, but the 7 is really really fast. I really griped about the headphone jack (still do), but I've heard AirPods are excellent (at least according to Marco and crew on ATP) and have a pair on backorder.
- tornadoboy55 10y ago
  So far Apple has never produced any audio listening equipment that I (or any other discerning listener) would rate above 'mediocre' in the sound quality department, which is arguably the most important part.

ReverseCold 10y ago

http://i.imgur.com/JBLmKHQh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JBLmKHQh.jpg Well that was a useful question to ask.

ksec 10y ago

Return it, vote with your money, and tell Apple they need a rethink. I dont need or want the touch bar. It felt as a double input UX crash with the touchpad on laptop. What happen to the Apple that only wanted single button mouse. And I cant justify the price hike just because of the touch bar. Although form factor is also at play here, but i felt i would actually want a thicker Macbook Pro just for the Keyboard. Having said that, I really want Touch ID. The sense of security. The memory capacity dont bothers me, I am hoping all of these are just setting the Stage for a much better Mac Line up in 2017, All in on USB-C, All Retina, All SSD.