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It's been over 1 year since a blog post on the Thunderbird blog [0]. Is there any possibility for an update? Maybe something like "All the cool things we worked

by Nadya 10y ago

It's been over 1 year since a blog post on the Thunderbird blog [0]. Is there any possibility for an update? Maybe something like "All the cool things we worked on in 2016?" (E: I realize 'developer' does not necessarily mean 'part of the Mozilla team developing it/in charge of the blog' but you may have better contact with someone who can get this done than I have. :] ) It was to my understanding that development, outside of security fixes, was more or less halted. Although looking at commits this doesn't seem to be the case [1]. While I use and enjoy Thunderbird, I was also under the impression is was more or less frozen/dead in the water/EOL. [0] https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ [1] http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central

criddell 10y ago
Are there new features that you would like to see? For me, I would be super happy if the feature set of Thunderbird were frozen and future updates only fixed bugs and improved performance.
- hendersoon 10y ago
  Yes, absolutely. Multiline thread lists in particular. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 This bug has been open for ~14 YEARS. Thunderbird not being actively developed is not exactly a recent development. Reading through this thread I see tons of great MacOS mail clients, but very few Linux and essentially zero Windows. That's why I still use Thunderbird myself-- nothing better has ever come out.
  - jcranmer 10y ago
    The reason for the lack of implementation has very little to do with a fault on the side of Thunderbird. It's been blocked on Firefox people accepting the changes in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441414 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441414 (which they finally categorically refused to do a few years ago).
    - hendersoon 10y ago
      Yeah, it's the usual open-source ego-driven squabbling. Whatever the reason may be, users were left without this extremely useful and desirable feature for fourteen YEARS. Thunderbird at its core today acts and performs essentially identically to 2003. I've been using it myself since well before that. Development on the mail client hasn't meaningfully progressed since, well, _ever_.
  - sachinag 10y ago
    We really hope that Nylas Mail will be your cross-platform email app then. Being build on Electron allows us to support all three major platforms and we are 100% committed to it. Nylas Pro (formerly N1) already supports all three and Nylas Mail should be there in a couple of weeks, if 'e0m is to be trusted. :) (I work at Nylas.)
    - hendersoon 10y ago
      You announced your project with tons of fanfare but no Windows client. I realize MacOS is very popular amongst developers, but Windows has a 91% desktop OS marketshare. From a broad marketing perspective, you should have waited until the Windows client was available. When you finally release it in a week or a month, will you get another frontpage Hackernews post? Probably not.
      - ac29 10y ago
        Try the windows release here: https://github.com/nylas/N1/releases https://github.com/nylas/N1/releases I haven't tried it, but the Linux version works fine with a basic account.

by Nadya 10y ago

criddell 10y ago

Are there new features that you would like to see? For me, I would be super happy if the feature set of Thunderbird were frozen and future updates only fixed bugs and improved performance.

hendersoon 10y ago
Yes, absolutely. Multiline thread lists in particular. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 This bug has been open for ~14 YEARS. Thunderbird not being actively developed is not exactly a recent development. Reading through this thread I see tons of great MacOS mail clients, but very few Linux and essentially zero Windows. That's why I still use Thunderbird myself-- nothing better has ever come out.
- jcranmer 10y ago
  The reason for the lack of implementation has very little to do with a fault on the side of Thunderbird. It's been blocked on Firefox people accepting the changes in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441414 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441414 (which they finally categorically refused to do a few years ago).
  - hendersoon 10y ago
    Yeah, it's the usual open-source ego-driven squabbling. Whatever the reason may be, users were left without this extremely useful and desirable feature for fourteen YEARS. Thunderbird at its core today acts and performs essentially identically to 2003. I've been using it myself since well before that. Development on the mail client hasn't meaningfully progressed since, well, _ever_.
- sachinag 10y ago
  We really hope that Nylas Mail will be your cross-platform email app then. Being build on Electron allows us to support all three major platforms and we are 100% committed to it. Nylas Pro (formerly N1) already supports all three and Nylas Mail should be there in a couple of weeks, if 'e0m is to be trusted. :) (I work at Nylas.)
  - hendersoon 10y ago
    You announced your project with tons of fanfare but no Windows client. I realize MacOS is very popular amongst developers, but Windows has a 91% desktop OS marketshare. From a broad marketing perspective, you should have waited until the Windows client was available. When you finally release it in a week or a month, will you get another frontpage Hackernews post? Probably not.
    - ac29 10y ago
      Try the windows release here: https://github.com/nylas/N1/releases https://github.com/nylas/N1/releases I haven't tried it, but the Linux version works fine with a basic account.