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He didn't build thousands of websites, just that the websites he has built were used by thousands of people. Sloppy "journalism" once again. Plus this is barel

by voidz 10y ago

He didn't build thousands of websites, just that the websites he has built were used by thousands of people. Sloppy "journalism" once again. Plus this is barely even an article because of how short it is - practically all the info is in the headline, the text doesn't add much at all. Makes me wonder how this stuff gets so many upvotes that it reaches the frontpage of HN in no time.

Fnoord 10y ago
The headline and article currently being linked are not news anymore. The article currently being linked links to an article by The Register. It is more informative and newsworthy, and an adequate summary of the original source. There are two original articles, posted directly by the Dutch Police (in Dutch). One from 13 Okt 2016 [1] and one from today, 17 Jan 2017 [2]. The news of today is that the Dutch police have contacted the 20.000 people who have [possibly] been a victim of cybercrime based on an investigation on the news they published October 2016. Note that it is sure that some of 20.000 have been victim of cybercrime ie. there are for certain victims. The only thing I don't understand is where they got the "thousands of websites" part from. I couldn't find that part in the original sources. Seems its made more clickbait. The only "thousands" in the articles from the Dutch police is this: "Daarop zijn duizenden inloggegevens van mensen aangetroffen." which means thousands login credentials of people were found. The older article also speaks of "Honderden slachtoffers in cybercrime-onderzoek" which means "hundreds of victims in cybercrime inquiry". This is a good example of how news becomes clickbait through improper translation. [1] https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2017/januari/16/01-politie-benadert-mogelijke-slachtoffers-cybercrime.html https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2017/januari/16/01-politie-ben... [2] https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2016/oktober/13/01-honderden-slachtoffers-in-cybercrime-onderzoek.html https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2016/oktober/13/01-honderden-s...
- xemoka 10y ago
  Confusing. There really needs to be a history of changes to each HN post, it looks like it's back to pointing at thenextweb's article.
  - jaclaz 10y ago
    Well, the non-article on nextweb references the Register one, here it is, just in case: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/17/police_warn_of_dutch_developer_who_built_backdoors_for_carding/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/17/police_warn_of_dutch... It talks of "Various companies used him to build sites with web shop functionality," so very likely it is just a few companies 10-30 with 500-2000 users each that total 20,000 credentials stolen.

by voidz 10y ago

Fnoord 10y ago

The headline and article currently being linked are not news anymore. The article currently being linked links to an article by The Register. It is more informative and newsworthy, and an adequate summary of the original source. There are two original articles, posted directly by the Dutch Police (in Dutch). One from 13 Okt 2016 [1] and one from today, 17 Jan 2017 [2]. The news of today is that the Dutch police have contacted the 20.000 people who have [possibly] been a victim of cybercrime based on an investigation on the news they published October 2016. Note that it is sure that some of 20.000 have been victim of cybercrime ie. there are for certain victims. The only thing I don't understand is where they got the "thousands of websites" part from. I couldn't find that part in the original sources. Seems its made more clickbait. The only "thousands" in the articles from the Dutch police is this: "Daarop zijn duizenden inloggegevens van mensen aangetroffen." which means thousands login credentials of people were found. The older article also speaks of "Honderden slachtoffers in cybercrime-onderzoek" which means "hundreds of victims in cybercrime inquiry". This is a good example of how news becomes clickbait through improper translation. [1] https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2017/januari/16/01-politie-benadert-mogelijke-slachtoffers-cybercrime.html https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2017/januari/16/01-politie-ben... [2] https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2016/oktober/13/01-honderden-slachtoffers-in-cybercrime-onderzoek.html https://www.politie.nl/nieuws/2016/oktober/13/01-honderden-s...

xemoka 10y ago
Confusing. There really needs to be a history of changes to each HN post, it looks like it's back to pointing at thenextweb's article.
- jaclaz 10y ago
  Well, the non-article on nextweb references the Register one, here it is, just in case: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/17/police_warn_of_dutch_developer_who_built_backdoors_for_carding/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/17/police_warn_of_dutch... It talks of "Various companies used him to build sites with web shop functionality," so very likely it is just a few companies 10-30 with 500-2000 users each that total 20,000 credentials stolen.