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If someone can't afford either A) the monthly premiums for a plan with a low deductible or B) the high deductible associated with a low premium plan, then that

by jimmyk 10y ago

If someone can't afford either A) the monthly premiums for a plan with a low deductible or B) the high deductible associated with a low premium plan, then that person is not capable of paying for their own health care and needs charity. It is certainly insane to expect people who are incapable of paying for their own health care to be capable of paying for their own health care. But the health insurance market is not there for people who are incapable of paying for their own health care.

gnaritas 10y ago
> then that person is not capable of paying for their own health care and needs charity They need an effective government and socialized medicine. Charity is not a workable solution. > It is certainly insane to expect people who are incapable of paying for their own health care to be capable of paying for their own health care. But the health insurance market is not there for people who are incapable of paying for their own health care. Sure it is, that's exactly why it's there, hence the subsidies. It's a shitty system, better than it was, but still crap that needs to be replaced with socialized medicine.
- jimmyk 10y ago
  >They need an effective government and socialized medicine. Charity is not a workable solution. Whether the charity comes through government or private organizations is not relevant to my point. The point is that they need someone else to pay for it, and not via a normal market transaction. >Sure it is, that's exactly why it's there, hence the subsidies. Allow me to rephrase: The health insurance market is not there to ensure everyone is able to afford to pay for their own health care needs. It is not broken because some people are not able to afford to participate in it. That is not its purpose. Judging it to be 'broken' or 'insane' because it doesn't do something that it's not intended to do is ridiculous.

by jimmyk 10y ago

gnaritas 10y ago

> then that person is not capable of paying for their own health care and needs charity They need an effective government and socialized medicine. Charity is not a workable solution. > It is certainly insane to expect people who are incapable of paying for their own health care to be capable of paying for their own health care. But the health insurance market is not there for people who are incapable of paying for their own health care. Sure it is, that's exactly why it's there, hence the subsidies. It's a shitty system, better than it was, but still crap that needs to be replaced with socialized medicine.

jimmyk 10y ago
>They need an effective government and socialized medicine. Charity is not a workable solution. Whether the charity comes through government or private organizations is not relevant to my point. The point is that they need someone else to pay for it, and not via a normal market transaction. >Sure it is, that's exactly why it's there, hence the subsidies. Allow me to rephrase: The health insurance market is not there to ensure everyone is able to afford to pay for their own health care needs. It is not broken because some people are not able to afford to participate in it. That is not its purpose. Judging it to be 'broken' or 'insane' because it doesn't do something that it's not intended to do is ridiculous.