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Just wondering what Opera will loose open sourcing it? They are not using it anymore.

by akmittal 10y ago

ihalip 10y ago
They are still using it.
anonymfus 10y ago
That the fork will outcompete current Blink-based Opera?
wazoox 10y ago
As often with proprietary source code, it may include some third-party code or libraries that they have no right to redistribute, for example. To "free" a repository, you must first audit the code for 3rd-party code and check the legal status of this code, and you may need to replace it with a free replacement, and find a license compatible with all the code. That may represent a significant effort, with associated costs...
- Asooka 10y ago
  But if it was taken by a third party, Opera aren't distributing anything, are they?
  - xeromal 10y ago
    They probably have to do their due diligence to get it back or they are held liable. Who knows though.
ygra 10y ago
You'd have to make completely sure there is no 3rd-party code in there you don't have a license for to redistribute. So usually, especially for old codebases, it's not that easy to simply open-source them, mostly for legal reasons.
frivoal 10y ago
It's not being used in the desktop browser anymore, but some consumer electronics project still under maintenance are, and so is Opera mini.
drinkjuice 10y ago
"They" are not even "they" anymore. At this point, Opera is pretty much just a brand name making a mockery of the former program.
- Fnoord 10y ago
  CEO is still the same. Presto developers have been laid off. I don't know, its hard to describe how much Opera-when-they-still-made-their-rendering-engine-inhouse is or is not Opera-using-webkit-and-bought-by-Chinese.
  - drinkjuice 10y ago
    Well, it's subjective of course, maybe I should have said "the things I liked about Opera". Those "dry" configuration dialogs that always seemed to go that extra mile, for example. I doubt Vivaldi is ever going to reach that level again, and their other offerings aren't even trying.
  - gsnedders 10y ago
    And how much is Opera TV, which is yet another company.
rasz_pl 10y ago
they would risk competitor using 1/4 memory, loading instantly, and with zero UI latency(load 40 tabs in anything Chromelike and then try fullscreening YT video- takes almost one second).

Just wondering what Opera will loose open sourcing it? They are not using it anymore.

ihalip 10y ago

They are still using it.

anonymfus 10y ago

That the fork will outcompete current Blink-based Opera?

wazoox 10y ago

As often with proprietary source code, it may include some third-party code or libraries that they have no right to redistribute, for example. To "free" a repository, you must first audit the code for 3rd-party code and check the legal status of this code, and you may need to replace it with a free replacement, and find a license compatible with all the code. That may represent a significant effort, with associated costs...

Asooka 10y ago
But if it was taken by a third party, Opera aren't distributing anything, are they?
- xeromal 10y ago
  They probably have to do their due diligence to get it back or they are held liable. Who knows though.

ygra 10y ago

You'd have to make completely sure there is no 3rd-party code in there you don't have a license for to redistribute. So usually, especially for old codebases, it's not that easy to simply open-source them, mostly for legal reasons.

frivoal 10y ago

It's not being used in the desktop browser anymore, but some consumer electronics project still under maintenance are, and so is Opera mini.

drinkjuice 10y ago

"They" are not even "they" anymore. At this point, Opera is pretty much just a brand name making a mockery of the former program.

Fnoord 10y ago
CEO is still the same. Presto developers have been laid off. I don't know, its hard to describe how much Opera-when-they-still-made-their-rendering-engine-inhouse is or is not Opera-using-webkit-and-bought-by-Chinese.
- drinkjuice 10y ago
  Well, it's subjective of course, maybe I should have said "the things I liked about Opera". Those "dry" configuration dialogs that always seemed to go that extra mile, for example. I doubt Vivaldi is ever going to reach that level again, and their other offerings aren't even trying.
- gsnedders 10y ago
  And how much is Opera TV, which is yet another company.

rasz_pl 10y ago

they would risk competitor using 1/4 memory, loading instantly, and with zero UI latency(load 40 tabs in anything Chromelike and then try fullscreening YT video- takes almost one second).