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"This latest round of price changes doesn’t just affect the UK (customers in India and Turkey are also going to see increases).." OK, '25 percent due to Brexit

by dazc 10y ago

"This latest round of price changes doesn’t just affect the UK (customers in India and Turkey are also going to see increases).." OK, '25 percent due to Brexit' is going to get more clicks.

huxley 10y ago
Not really, Brexit is the proximate cause for the change in pricing in the UK (since Apple has concerns about currency instability) but that doesn't mean other countries aren't also going to see pricing changes that are unrelated to Brexit. Apple sometimes eats the currency difference but if they think the currency value will trend down they generally don't.
- camus2 10y ago
  Apple is full of it. 5/7 years ago it was cheaper to fly to New York from Paris, buy a Macbook Pro there and come back since the dollar was pretty low. And you still had money left! Of course they don't care about the exchange rates when they can charge the same price NUMBER in Euro and in Dollars despite the difference. They also overcharge for UK, the "localisation cost" excuse doesn't fly here. I'm glad time have changed and there is less fanboism from Apple evangelists online. Their arguments were just obnoxious.
  - misnome 10y ago
    Really? Exactly when was that the case? I know that dollars = pounds/euros is usually how it works, but the disparity is never quite as large when you consider both the currency valuations and the fact that the price never includes tax.
    - croon 10y ago
      I can verify the claim, but can't point to specific years. That was however not specifically Apple, but merely electronics in general. I used to import hardware parts through an American friend when he came to visit because it was so much cheaper, and I would say it was more than 5 years ago. Now the difference is negligible.
misnome 10y ago
Different countries change over time for different reasons, and Apple tends to change them in bulk. Are you arguing that the massive drop in the pound isn't due to Brexit? As far as I'm aware even the most rabid Farage-fanciers don't argue that, but argue it's a good thing (Cheaper exports! As though we don't import most of the raw materials, but that's not as snappy).
- dazc 10y ago
  I was stating the headline was somewhat sensationalist given the statement from Apple was pretty vague. Where you get me arguing about the massive drop in the pound I don't know?
  - misnome 10y ago
    > Where you get me arguing about the massive drop in the pound I don't know? Because, Apple has changed it's prices because of the drop in the pound? The pound dropped because of Brexit. You said that Brexit wasn't the cause of the price change.
    - dazc 10y ago
      You seem determined to draw me into an argument?
      - misnome 10y ago
        No, but any Brexit discussion is always rife with huge denials and lies. So when one of the first comments on a report of an actual, verifiable consequence is implying that "This has nothing to do with Brexit and is just lying about it to get clicks", then I think that shouldn't be allowed to just stand on it's own?

by dazc 10y ago

"This latest round of price changes doesn’t just affect the UK (customers in India and Turkey are also going to see increases).." OK, '25 percent due to Brexit' is going to get more clicks.

huxley 10y ago

Not really, Brexit is the proximate cause for the change in pricing in the UK (since Apple has concerns about currency instability) but that doesn't mean other countries aren't also going to see pricing changes that are unrelated to Brexit. Apple sometimes eats the currency difference but if they think the currency value will trend down they generally don't.

camus2 10y ago
Apple is full of it. 5/7 years ago it was cheaper to fly to New York from Paris, buy a Macbook Pro there and come back since the dollar was pretty low. And you still had money left! Of course they don't care about the exchange rates when they can charge the same price NUMBER in Euro and in Dollars despite the difference. They also overcharge for UK, the "localisation cost" excuse doesn't fly here. I'm glad time have changed and there is less fanboism from Apple evangelists online. Their arguments were just obnoxious.
- misnome 10y ago
  Really? Exactly when was that the case? I know that dollars = pounds/euros is usually how it works, but the disparity is never quite as large when you consider both the currency valuations and the fact that the price never includes tax.
  - croon 10y ago
    I can verify the claim, but can't point to specific years. That was however not specifically Apple, but merely electronics in general. I used to import hardware parts through an American friend when he came to visit because it was so much cheaper, and I would say it was more than 5 years ago. Now the difference is negligible.

misnome 10y ago

Different countries change over time for different reasons, and Apple tends to change them in bulk. Are you arguing that the massive drop in the pound isn't due to Brexit? As far as I'm aware even the most rabid Farage-fanciers don't argue that, but argue it's a good thing (Cheaper exports! As though we don't import most of the raw materials, but that's not as snappy).

dazc 10y ago
I was stating the headline was somewhat sensationalist given the statement from Apple was pretty vague. Where you get me arguing about the massive drop in the pound I don't know?
- misnome 10y ago
  > Where you get me arguing about the massive drop in the pound I don't know? Because, Apple has changed it's prices because of the drop in the pound? The pound dropped because of Brexit. You said that Brexit wasn't the cause of the price change.
  - dazc 10y ago
    You seem determined to draw me into an argument?
    - misnome 10y ago
      No, but any Brexit discussion is always rife with huge denials and lies. So when one of the first comments on a report of an actual, verifiable consequence is implying that "This has nothing to do with Brexit and is just lying about it to get clicks", then I think that shouldn't be allowed to just stand on it's own?