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Using https://encrypted.google.com/ https://encrypted.google.com/ to avoid AMP is a great tip. I'll be doing that, does anybody have more information on what th

Using https://encrypted.google.com/ https://encrypted.google.com/ to avoid AMP is a great tip. I'll be doing that, does anybody have more information on what that URL is for? Is it possible to set it as default on iOS/Android somehow? AMP really frustratingly breaks link sharing, and I'd like to totally avoid it.

itcrowd 10y ago
I'm not sure there is a more natural way, but if you install DuckDuckGo as default search engine, then searches which use their !bang syntax to redirect to a Google search are via encrypted.google.com. Example: !g search query Leads to https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=search%20query https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=search%20query Of course, this also works if you type this query in at duckduckgo.com Edit to add: I guess it is a matter of time before amp pages also appear on the encrypted subdomain; another incentive to switch to DDG now.
Spivak 10y ago
That's why I've never seen any AMP pages! I've been wondering about this forever -- I thought Google must have figured out I wouldn't want them somehow. But any Google searches I do are usually through DuckDuckGo which use the encrypted link.
ivank 10y ago
> does anybody have more information on what that URL is for? Many years ago, Google Search existed only on http:// http:// and schools used filters to block searches that they didn't like. Then Google shipped https:// https:// for search on www.google.com, upset the schools because they could no longer block just some searches, then moved encrypted search to encrypted.google.com so that the entire domain could be blocked: https://cloud.googleblog.com/2010/06/an-update-on-encrypted-web-search-in.html https://cloud.googleblog.com/2010/06/an-update-on-encrypted-...
- astronautjones 10y ago
  this seems so dumb... is the difference between schools blocking and governments blocking negligible to them?
duskwuff 10y ago
> Does anybody have more information on what that URL is for? You used to have to use that domain to run searches over HTTPS. Google's enabled that for all users now, so it's kind of obsolete -- but apparently it still behaves a little bit differently?
ayrx 10y ago
This StackExchange answer[0] has a nice overview of what encrypted.google.com does. [0]: http://security.stackexchange.com/a/32374 http://security.stackexchange.com/a/32374
kobayashi 10y ago
It's from the era before which Google defaulted to TLS. Nowadays, the only known difference relates to clicking of links. Here's the info from SE[0]: >1. Clicking on an ad: > - https://google.com https://google.com : Google will take you to an HTTP redirection page where they'd append your search query to the referrer information. > - https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com : If the advertiser uses HTTP, Google will not let the advertiser know about your query. If the advertiser uses HTTPS, they will receive the referrer information normally (including your search query). >2. Clicking on a normal search result: > - https://google.com https://google.com : If the website uses HTTP, Google will take you to an HTTP redirection page and will not append your search query to the referrer information. They'll only tell the website that you're coming from Google. If it uses HTTPS, it will receive referrer information normally. > - https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com : If the website you click in the results uses HTTP, it will have no idea where you're coming from or what your search query is. If it uses HTTPS, it will receive referrer information normally. [0] http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/32367/what-is-the-difference-between-https-google-com-and-https-encrypted-google-c#32374 http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/32367/what-is-th...
clydethefrog 10y ago
Startpage is a search engine who displays Google's search results without all the tracking and AMP, as an alternative to using DDG and using !g.

itcrowd 10y ago

I'm not sure there is a more natural way, but if you install DuckDuckGo as default search engine, then searches which use their !bang syntax to redirect to a Google search are via encrypted.google.com. Example: !g search query Leads to https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=search%20query https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=search%20query Of course, this also works if you type this query in at duckduckgo.com Edit to add: I guess it is a matter of time before amp pages also appear on the encrypted subdomain; another incentive to switch to DDG now.

Spivak 10y ago

That's why I've never seen any AMP pages! I've been wondering about this forever -- I thought Google must have figured out I wouldn't want them somehow. But any Google searches I do are usually through DuckDuckGo which use the encrypted link.

ivank 10y ago

> does anybody have more information on what that URL is for? Many years ago, Google Search existed only on http:// http:// and schools used filters to block searches that they didn't like. Then Google shipped https:// https:// for search on www.google.com, upset the schools because they could no longer block just some searches, then moved encrypted search to encrypted.google.com so that the entire domain could be blocked: https://cloud.googleblog.com/2010/06/an-update-on-encrypted-web-search-in.html https://cloud.googleblog.com/2010/06/an-update-on-encrypted-...

astronautjones 10y ago
this seems so dumb... is the difference between schools blocking and governments blocking negligible to them?

duskwuff 10y ago

> Does anybody have more information on what that URL is for? You used to have to use that domain to run searches over HTTPS. Google's enabled that for all users now, so it's kind of obsolete -- but apparently it still behaves a little bit differently?

ayrx 10y ago

This StackExchange answer[0] has a nice overview of what encrypted.google.com does. [0]: http://security.stackexchange.com/a/32374 http://security.stackexchange.com/a/32374

kobayashi 10y ago

It's from the era before which Google defaulted to TLS. Nowadays, the only known difference relates to clicking of links. Here's the info from SE[0]: >1. Clicking on an ad: > - https://google.com https://google.com : Google will take you to an HTTP redirection page where they'd append your search query to the referrer information. > - https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com : If the advertiser uses HTTP, Google will not let the advertiser know about your query. If the advertiser uses HTTPS, they will receive the referrer information normally (including your search query). >2. Clicking on a normal search result: > - https://google.com https://google.com : If the website uses HTTP, Google will take you to an HTTP redirection page and will not append your search query to the referrer information. They'll only tell the website that you're coming from Google. If it uses HTTPS, it will receive referrer information normally. > - https://encrypted.google.com https://encrypted.google.com : If the website you click in the results uses HTTP, it will have no idea where you're coming from or what your search query is. If it uses HTTPS, it will receive referrer information normally. [0] http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/32367/what-is-the-difference-between-https-google-com-and-https-encrypted-google-c#32374 http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/32367/what-is-th...

clydethefrog 10y ago

Startpage is a search engine who displays Google's search results without all the tracking and AMP, as an alternative to using DDG and using !g.