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Simplified map from national geographic helps show migration patterns of the world: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/ https://genographi

Simplified map from national geographic helps show migration patterns of the world: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/ https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/ Actual article is open-access: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169486 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... Simply amazing that a human community existed for 8,000 years in total isolation from the world.

Cyph0n 10y ago
I'm more impressed by how the coordinated migration to Australia took place around 50,000 years ago! Thanks for the link.
- oska 10y ago
  And they didn't have a complete land bridge to get there. There has always been a sea gap between SE Asia and Australia/New Guinea. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line
  - Cyph0n 10y ago
    They had to have been pretty damn smart to get a large party across a sea gap. Proud of our ancestors haha!
- ktRolster 10y ago
  "Civilization is always older than we think, and below our feet were also men and women who lived and loved." -Will Durant
  - Cyph0n 10y ago
    Beautiful quote. Never heard of Durant before. Any recommendations?
    - ktRolster 10y ago
      I've read The Story of Philosophy. That particular quote comes from Our Oriental Heritage. His writing is generally good, the major difficulty being that he wrote a lot
    - allannienhuis 10y ago
      I think his "story of civilization" is considered his most famous work. https://archive.org/details/storyofcivilizat035369mbp https://archive.org/details/storyofcivilizat035369mbp
speeder 10y ago
One thing that bothers me, is that most first world archeologist keep ignoring evidence of humans in Brazil at least 40.000 years ago. Even more interesting, there are evidence of "negroids" in Brazil at that time, while the "mongoloids" people (the current native americans, that have features shared with asians) timeline seemly match the straight theory, some Brazillian historians believe that what happened is that the first attempt of colonizing South America failed somehow, and when the current natives arrived, they early settlers were already long gone. As for a controversial archeological dig, one with 40.000 years ago humans in it, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Furada_sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Furada_sites
- ellyagg 10y ago
  I just saw something about this last week when I was curiosity browsing: http://rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/02/23/its-official-native-americans-and-siberians-are-cousins_569517 http://rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/02/23/its-official-nat... According to this research, not only did they find a Siberian link to NAs, but they found a link between Australian indigenous people among some NAs. Wikipedia says: Two 2015 autosomal DNA genetic studies confirmed the Siberian origins of the Natives of the Americas. However an ancient signal of shared ancestry with the Natives of Australia and Melanesia was detected among the Natives of the Amazon region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_indigenous_...
- SnakePlissken 10y ago
  Can you expand on the evidence of "Negroids" in Brazil 40,000 years ago? I'm familiar with the idea of pre-Clovis settlements and the controversy around that, but I was under the impression these were thought to be earlier settlers from East Asia, like the Clovis people. The only indication of Africans in South America I can think of are the much later statues and idols of faces from Olmec Mexico, circa 1000 BC, which some claim have "Negroid" features (a supposition that has to be debunked with an unfortunate degree of frequency).
  - speeder 10y ago

Cyph0n 10y ago

I'm more impressed by how the coordinated migration to Australia took place around 50,000 years ago! Thanks for the link.

oska 10y ago
And they didn't have a complete land bridge to get there. There has always been a sea gap between SE Asia and Australia/New Guinea. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  They had to have been pretty damn smart to get a large party across a sea gap. Proud of our ancestors haha!
ktRolster 10y ago
"Civilization is always older than we think, and below our feet were also men and women who lived and loved." -Will Durant
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  Beautiful quote. Never heard of Durant before. Any recommendations?
  - ktRolster 10y ago
    I've read The Story of Philosophy. That particular quote comes from Our Oriental Heritage. His writing is generally good, the major difficulty being that he wrote a lot
  - allannienhuis 10y ago
    I think his "story of civilization" is considered his most famous work. https://archive.org/details/storyofcivilizat035369mbp https://archive.org/details/storyofcivilizat035369mbp

speeder 10y ago

One thing that bothers me, is that most first world archeologist keep ignoring evidence of humans in Brazil at least 40.000 years ago. Even more interesting, there are evidence of "negroids" in Brazil at that time, while the "mongoloids" people (the current native americans, that have features shared with asians) timeline seemly match the straight theory, some Brazillian historians believe that what happened is that the first attempt of colonizing South America failed somehow, and when the current natives arrived, they early settlers were already long gone. As for a controversial archeological dig, one with 40.000 years ago humans in it, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Furada_sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Furada_sites

ellyagg 10y ago
I just saw something about this last week when I was curiosity browsing: http://rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/02/23/its-official-native-americans-and-siberians-are-cousins_569517 http://rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/02/23/its-official-nat... According to this research, not only did they find a Siberian link to NAs, but they found a link between Australian indigenous people among some NAs. Wikipedia says: Two 2015 autosomal DNA genetic studies confirmed the Siberian origins of the Natives of the Americas. However an ancient signal of shared ancestry with the Natives of Australia and Melanesia was detected among the Natives of the Amazon region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_indigenous_...
SnakePlissken 10y ago
Can you expand on the evidence of "Negroids" in Brazil 40,000 years ago? I'm familiar with the idea of pre-Clovis settlements and the controversy around that, but I was under the impression these were thought to be earlier settlers from East Asia, like the Clovis people. The only indication of Africans in South America I can think of are the much later statues and idols of faces from Olmec Mexico, circa 1000 BC, which some claim have "Negroid" features (a supposition that has to be debunked with an unfortunate degree of frequency).
- speeder 10y ago