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> Most government-provided healthcare systems rank quite poorly in terms of wait times, fatality rates, etc. compared to private healthcare. I suppose that you

by Oletros 10y ago

> Most government-provided healthcare systems rank quite poorly in terms of wait times, fatality rates, etc. compared to private healthcare. I suppose that you can provide sources for your claim. > but it's truly a mind-bending experience how good the healthcare is in medically deregulated countries If you can afford it, can the Mexican and Indian citizens afford that health care in "tourist hospitals"?

wyager 10y ago
Not really interested in finding a study that happens to support that particular claim, especially since "quality" in this case is 100% subjective, so someone else could very reasonably disagree with me. All I can talk about is my experience; take it as nothing more than an opinion. The NHS sucks, Canadian healthcare sucks, US healthcare is good but expensive and overcomplicated, Mexican healthcare is great. I have heard from friends how Indian healthcare is similarly excellent, and French and German healthcare suck (unless, in the German case, you are a US citizen with US insurance, then they'll actually treat you well because they can get paid for it). > If you can afford it, can the Mexican and Indian citizens afford that health care in "tourist hospitals"? That's completely irrelevant. We're comparing the quality of care at the same price point. Obviously poorer people in poor countries won't be able to pay for the luxury healthcare that your average first-worlder can. They also wouldn't be able to afford the kind of socialized healthcare we could afford. Just to give you a price point, 2 hours with a doctor (not a nurse), 2 x-rays, and an ultrasound was under $250 in Mexico. No paperwork, no waiting, no bullshit. Happy medical staff, happy patients. The exact opposite of any red-tape-encumbered first-world hospital.
- Oletros 10y ago
  If you say that French system suck and Mexican system is great then we can't discuss anything
  - wyager 10y ago
    Which of the two have you used personally?
- equalunique 10y ago
  Add Philippines and Czech Republic to your list of countries for fantastic de-regulated medical care.

by Oletros 10y ago

wyager 10y ago

Not really interested in finding a study that happens to support that particular claim, especially since "quality" in this case is 100% subjective, so someone else could very reasonably disagree with me. All I can talk about is my experience; take it as nothing more than an opinion. The NHS sucks, Canadian healthcare sucks, US healthcare is good but expensive and overcomplicated, Mexican healthcare is great. I have heard from friends how Indian healthcare is similarly excellent, and French and German healthcare suck (unless, in the German case, you are a US citizen with US insurance, then they'll actually treat you well because they can get paid for it). > If you can afford it, can the Mexican and Indian citizens afford that health care in "tourist hospitals"? That's completely irrelevant. We're comparing the quality of care at the same price point. Obviously poorer people in poor countries won't be able to pay for the luxury healthcare that your average first-worlder can. They also wouldn't be able to afford the kind of socialized healthcare we could afford. Just to give you a price point, 2 hours with a doctor (not a nurse), 2 x-rays, and an ultrasound was under $250 in Mexico. No paperwork, no waiting, no bullshit. Happy medical staff, happy patients. The exact opposite of any red-tape-encumbered first-world hospital.

Oletros 10y ago
If you say that French system suck and Mexican system is great then we can't discuss anything
- wyager 10y ago
  Which of the two have you used personally?
equalunique 10y ago
Add Philippines and Czech Republic to your list of countries for fantastic de-regulated medical care.