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I would still pick Berlin or Amsterdam over France. Maybe even Sweden or Finland because of the average English language level spoken in those countries even th
by LunaSea 10y ago
I would still pick Berlin or Amsterdam over France. Maybe even Sweden or Finland because of the average English language level spoken in those countries even though the startup scene there is smaller than Paris.
- pyrale 10y agoYep, that's a valid point.
- Chris2048 10y agoPlus employee welfare in France is ridiculous, ultimately harmful to their economy..
- pyrale 10y agoWe've actually had this welfare for 70 years, and the harm was supposed to come any minute now for all this time. Ultimately, its demise is likely going to come from the propaganda against it rather from it actually being a problem.
- Chris2048 10y agoWho says you haven't seen harm? You're erecting a straw-man. Also, you have to factor in that when the coffers are empty, France may be more willing to sell weapons abroad... So maybe it's not France that sees that harm. http://www.france24.com/en/20150503-arms-sales-becoming-france-new-el-dorado-but-what-cost-francois-hollande-saudi-arabia-rafale http://www.france24.com/en/20150503-arms-sales-becoming-fran...
- Chris2048 10y agoOk, is there some French Defamation League, downvote-brigade choosing to censor realities it dislikes, rather than respond? I note I have down-voted responses to replies that do not have further responses. Hence, from my point of view, it seems when the argument got difficult, down-voting was resorted to.. note: this comment was also down-voted within 5 minutes, again without comment. Those who never comment, never run the risk of malicious down-votes.
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- Chris2048 10y agoTo clarify, as I just realised that the above is ambiguous: > I note I have down-voted responses to replies that do not have further responses by "have" I mean, I have received down-votes, not I have down-voted them.
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- quickConclusion 10y agoEven if what you said was true, what would be the point of a strong economy if people cannot have healthcare? I'd rather have a less strong economy and better health for everyone. Not surprisingly, it helps the economy: people dont lose their savings, jobs and houses when they get sick in Europe.
- Chris2048 10y agoI didn't say "they can't have healthcare". I'm talking about employment. > I'd rather have a less strong economy There are plenty of countries/citizens that can't dictate what they want. Do competing developing countries have this choice? Why not?
- coredog64 10y agoFrance, or Paris? The joke my former (Parisian) co-worker used to tell was that he missed everything about Paris except the Parisians. I've heard nice things about Lyon: Largish city, easily accessible, and not full of Parisians.
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- LunaSea 10y agoI'd say both. Sure there are other large cities in France but for tech I don't think that other cities have anything interesting to offer.
- CalChris 10y agoI could say the same about San Francisco and I lived there for a couple of decades. It is insanely crowded now with Uber drivers cutting through neighborhoods obeying their GPS overlord. As for Paris, I love Paris but then I'd have a hard time getting work done there. Being near would be enough. I worked in Milan and Geneva and would take the train into Paris for the weekend but not for work.
- di4na 10y agoand bad internet.
- AceJohnny2 10y agoLyon? Pft, go to Grenoble. Friendly city, techies everywhere, mountain activities year-round, and it's not full of Lyonais ;) (it was the classic regional thing: when we saw a car with a '69 license plate, we'd grumble ;p)