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Those of us outside the US would still see some usages; "encyclopædea" in particular isn't uncommon.

by beefsack 10y ago

porges 10y ago
That's mostly because Encyclopædia Britannica is styled that way.
- fifnir 10y ago
  Which is because the word was made by french based on the greek εγκύκλιος παιδεία εν-κύκλος (in circle) --> εγκύκλιος παιδεία (education) The core, generalized education one should have. Words like paedagogic etc are also spelled like this in english (uk) because the language maintains the historic spelling
DonaldFisk 10y ago
That's a ligature for the "ae" diphthong in Latin though, rather than the ash character of Old English. There's also an "oe" diphthong, hence "oestrogen", "foetus". British usage usually preserves the "a" and "o" in those diphthongs.
- fifnir 10y ago
  And Latin used ae "to transliterate the Greek diphthong αι (alpha iota)" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86) Oe is also used in the same way I suppose, oestrogen for example comes from οιστρογόνο so in this case oe is transliterating omicron iota. Some more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_of_Greek_origin#Written_form_of_Greek_words_in_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_of_Greek_origin#... I was actually a bit disappointed that she doesn't mention all this in the article, "ae" is not aesthetical (another greek-derived word) ffs, it very often maintains the historical orthography of the word which I feel is very important.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  Yes, "Encyclopædia Britannica" not English, it's Latin. "Encyclopædia Britannica" means "British Encyclopaedia" in English.
amyjess 10y ago
Fun fact: the æ ligature was only introduced to Latin during the early modern era. Classical Latin just wrote out AE (and it was always in capitals because minuscule hadn't been invented yet). In the middle ages, after sound changes resulted in AE being pronounced just like E, they switched to ę (called e caudata, the little tail at the bottom being called a cauda). In the early modern era, scribal abbreviations fell out of fashion and they went back to writing the a... but they ligatured it with the e as æ in order to make it clear it was a single sound.

Those of us outside the US would still see some usages; "encyclopædea" in particular isn't uncommon.

porges 10y ago

That's mostly because Encyclopædia Britannica is styled that way.

fifnir 10y ago
Which is because the word was made by french based on the greek εγκύκλιος παιδεία εν-κύκλος (in circle) --> εγκύκλιος παιδεία (education) The core, generalized education one should have. Words like paedagogic etc are also spelled like this in english (uk) because the language maintains the historic spelling

DonaldFisk 10y ago

That's a ligature for the "ae" diphthong in Latin though, rather than the ash character of Old English. There's also an "oe" diphthong, hence "oestrogen", "foetus". British usage usually preserves the "a" and "o" in those diphthongs.

fifnir 10y ago
And Latin used ae "to transliterate the Greek diphthong αι (alpha iota)" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86) Oe is also used in the same way I suppose, oestrogen for example comes from οιστρογόνο so in this case oe is transliterating omicron iota. Some more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_of_Greek_origin#Written_form_of_Greek_words_in_English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_of_Greek_origin#... I was actually a bit disappointed that she doesn't mention all this in the article, "ae" is not aesthetical (another greek-derived word) ffs, it very often maintains the historical orthography of the word which I feel is very important.
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Yes, "Encyclopædia Britannica" not English, it's Latin. "Encyclopædia Britannica" means "British Encyclopaedia" in English.

amyjess 10y ago

Fun fact: the æ ligature was only introduced to Latin during the early modern era. Classical Latin just wrote out AE (and it was always in capitals because minuscule hadn't been invented yet). In the middle ages, after sound changes resulted in AE being pronounced just like E, they switched to ę (called e caudata, the little tail at the bottom being called a cauda). In the early modern era, scribal abbreviations fell out of fashion and they went back to writing the a... but they ligatured it with the e as æ in order to make it clear it was a single sound.