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Would be great if you could impart some offer negotiation advise! I was once interviewing with the fruit company. The HR guy was very aggressive, and insisted t

Would be great if you could impart some offer negotiation advise! I was once interviewing with the fruit company. The HR guy was very aggressive, and insisted that I reveal all details of my current comp before we proceed further. This was after I was referred by an employee and already had an conversation with the team lead. After I revealed my comp, he acted very surprised about how high it was, and about how difficult it would be for them to exceed it. How do you respond when they insist on knowing your comp details?

fuzzy-logic 10y ago
Step 1: you never reveal your comp data. At all. I will, and have, walked away from interviews when they ask this stuff and don't let up.
memmove33 10y ago
As fuzzy-logic said, just don't reveal your total comp, and be willing to walk away from it for real (walking away from such juicy offers requires the most determination, so it's important you do it from a position of power, for example if you already have a good job, otherwise they have you by the balls). The only case where it can be beneficial to disclose something about your compensation is if you have deferred compensation (e.g. stock options) that you want your potential new employer to somehow consider in the offer. In that case, sharing a copy of the grant is the easiest thing to do, and doesn't hurt much
- mailshanx 10y ago
  I see. How does one then approach the topic of compensation, and determine if the two parties at at least in the same ballpark? Do you postpone comp-talk until an offer is on the table? Or is it safe to assume that large companies generally have an extremely elastic range? Do you think it's a good idea say something like "If you can offer $OBVIOUSLY_EXTREMELY_HIGH, i will immediately accept. For lesser offers, i will evaluate them on a case by case basis."

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Would be great if you could impart some offer negotiation advise! I was once interviewing with the fruit company. The HR guy was very aggressive, and insisted t

by mailshanx 10y ago

fuzzy-logic 10y ago
Step 1: you never reveal your comp data. At all. I will, and have, walked away from interviews when they ask this stuff and don't let up.
memmove33 10y ago
As fuzzy-logic said, just don't reveal your total comp, and be willing to walk away from it for real (walking away from such juicy offers requires the most determination, so it's important you do it from a position of power, for example if you already have a good job, otherwise they have you by the balls). The only case where it can be beneficial to disclose something about your compensation is if you have deferred compensation (e.g. stock options) that you want your potential new employer to somehow consider in the offer. In that case, sharing a copy of the grant is the easiest thing to do, and doesn't hurt much
- mailshanx 10y ago
  I see. How does one then approach the topic of compensation, and determine if the two parties at at least in the same ballpark? Do you postpone comp-talk until an offer is on the table? Or is it safe to assume that large companies generally have an extremely elastic range? Do you think it's a good idea say something like "If you can offer $OBVIOUSLY_EXTREMELY_HIGH, i will immediately accept. For lesser offers, i will evaluate them on a case by case basis."