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I've been there, there is not such things for an individual contributor unless you're an old employee (10 years at the same company). I'm talking about +200K/y

I've been there, there is not such things for an individual contributor unless you're an old employee (10 years at the same company). I'm talking about +200K/y base salary, no stocks, bonuses etc.

frankchn 10y ago
Google Staff Software Engineers make $200k+/year in base salary for a total compensation of $350k+ according to Glassdoor: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Staff-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E9079_D_KO7,30.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Staff-Software-Engin... This is three promotions for a new grad software engineer to reach this level, but if you are good, it is reasonable to get 3 promotions in 9 years. I assume other companies pay comparably at this level of seniority.
- bsvalley 10y ago
  Other companies, you mean FB or Microsoft? The rest, they don't. Also, Staff engineer at google = at least 8 years working at google as an engineer (while being a rock star over there). What if you join google now with 10 years of exp? Would you make $200k base salary? Not sure...
  - frankchn 10y ago
    Well, I am sure Amazon, Dropbox, and many of the other large companies would too. Also, I don't think it is unreasonable for someone with the equivalent experience of 8 or 9 years at Google to get hired as a Staff Software Engineer. Of course, this is ultimately dependent on how well you perform in your interviews and the hiring committee. Anyway, if you only care about cash compensation rather than bonuses or stock, Netflix is where you want to go: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Netflix-Senior-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E11891_D_KO8,32.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Netflix-Senior-Software-Eng.... Their compensation package is basically all cash, no stocks, no bonus or anything like that. Note that Netflix hires all software engineers as "Senior Software Engineers": https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs
gizmo 10y ago
It's also possible if you're headhunted, or if you're part of an aquihire. 200k base means closer to 500k in total compensation (because all big tech companies offer bonuses and stock), so I don't really understand your focus on base salary. Why not compare offers by total compensation instead? For every person earning 200k base there are many people earning 150k base. And with 150k base + bonus + stock you still end up with 250k in total compensation. We engineers got a good thing going here.
- bsvalley 10y ago
  Of course... total comp is standard at 200k/year (at least here in the bay area). Same for a startups, you can own %2 of a startup with a 40 million valuation. The bank will ask for your monthly paychecks at the end of the day.
JamesVI 10y ago
I have personally hired ICs at $200k base plus 10% bonus target plus RSUs. Typically 10+ years experience and a some specific experience we felt was relevant to the team.

I've been there, there is not such things for an individual contributor unless you're an old employee (10 years at the same company). I'm talking about +200K/y base salary, no stocks, bonuses etc.

frankchn 10y ago

Google Staff Software Engineers make $200k+/year in base salary for a total compensation of $350k+ according to Glassdoor: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Staff-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E9079_D_KO7,30.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Staff-Software-Engin... This is three promotions for a new grad software engineer to reach this level, but if you are good, it is reasonable to get 3 promotions in 9 years. I assume other companies pay comparably at this level of seniority.

bsvalley 10y ago
Other companies, you mean FB or Microsoft? The rest, they don't. Also, Staff engineer at google = at least 8 years working at google as an engineer (while being a rock star over there). What if you join google now with 10 years of exp? Would you make $200k base salary? Not sure...
- frankchn 10y ago
  Well, I am sure Amazon, Dropbox, and many of the other large companies would too. Also, I don't think it is unreasonable for someone with the equivalent experience of 8 or 9 years at Google to get hired as a Staff Software Engineer. Of course, this is ultimately dependent on how well you perform in your interviews and the hiring committee. Anyway, if you only care about cash compensation rather than bonuses or stock, Netflix is where you want to go: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Netflix-Senior-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E11891_D_KO8,32.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Netflix-Senior-Software-Eng.... Their compensation package is basically all cash, no stocks, no bonus or anything like that. Note that Netflix hires all software engineers as "Senior Software Engineers": https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs

gizmo 10y ago

It's also possible if you're headhunted, or if you're part of an aquihire. 200k base means closer to 500k in total compensation (because all big tech companies offer bonuses and stock), so I don't really understand your focus on base salary. Why not compare offers by total compensation instead? For every person earning 200k base there are many people earning 150k base. And with 150k base + bonus + stock you still end up with 250k in total compensation. We engineers got a good thing going here.

bsvalley 10y ago
Of course... total comp is standard at 200k/year (at least here in the bay area). Same for a startups, you can own %2 of a startup with a 40 million valuation. The bank will ask for your monthly paychecks at the end of the day.

JamesVI 10y ago

I have personally hired ICs at $200k base plus 10% bonus target plus RSUs. Typically 10+ years experience and a some specific experience we felt was relevant to the team.