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Oh yes, the "EU, give us back control of our borders" rhetoric. Your CAN have border control right now, in fact many northern European countries have border co

by bostand 10y ago

Oh yes, the "EU, give us back control of our borders" rhetoric. Your CAN have border control right now, in fact many northern European countries have border control among themselves today.

kuschku 10y ago
Actually, that kinda changed in September 2016 – because in the refugee crisis the countries were unable to control the outer EU borders properly, the EU got control of the national borders in September 2016, with the establishment of a European Border and Coast Guard: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/09/14-european-border-coast-guard/ http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/... EDIT: I can’t respond to your comment, but please read the article.
- bostand 10y ago
  Nope, EU countries have always had the possibility of border control (with some limitations). Its just that not having border control is cheaper and allowing people work across birders is good for the economy. So basically until late 2016 the pros outweighed the cons.
  - stale2002 10y ago
    This isn't true... Poland has decided to close its borders to immigrants, and the EU wants to fine them 250k an immigrant for it. The whole reason Brexit happened is because Britain wants to implement border controls. Edit, Proof: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countries-that-refuse-refugee-quota/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countr... Just get rid of these fines, and quotas, and give people control of their borders back.
    - bostand 10y ago
      There are today legal border controls from Mediterranean all the way up to the Scandinavia. Blaming EU for your own officials incompetency is soooo uk-2016
      - stale2002 10y ago
        Did you read the article? It says it right there. Hundreds of millions of dollars of fines for not doing what the EU says. Those are the facts. Fines. They are real.
        akjainaj 10y ago
        What's funny is that given the current situation of Poland, the EU will end up paying for the fines they imposed

by bostand 10y ago

Oh yes, the "EU, give us back control of our borders" rhetoric. Your CAN have border control right now, in fact many northern European countries have border control among themselves today.

kuschku 10y ago

Actually, that kinda changed in September 2016 – because in the refugee crisis the countries were unable to control the outer EU borders properly, the EU got control of the national borders in September 2016, with the establishment of a European Border and Coast Guard: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/09/14-european-border-coast-guard/ http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/... EDIT: I can’t respond to your comment, but please read the article.

bostand 10y ago
Nope, EU countries have always had the possibility of border control (with some limitations). Its just that not having border control is cheaper and allowing people work across birders is good for the economy. So basically until late 2016 the pros outweighed the cons.
- stale2002 10y ago
  This isn't true... Poland has decided to close its borders to immigrants, and the EU wants to fine them 250k an immigrant for it. The whole reason Brexit happened is because Britain wants to implement border controls. Edit, Proof: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countries-that-refuse-refugee-quota/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countr... Just get rid of these fines, and quotas, and give people control of their borders back.
  - bostand 10y ago
    There are today legal border controls from Mediterranean all the way up to the Scandinavia. Blaming EU for your own officials incompetency is soooo uk-2016
    - stale2002 10y ago
      Did you read the article? It says it right there. Hundreds of millions of dollars of fines for not doing what the EU says. Those are the facts. Fines. They are real.
      - akjainaj 10y ago
        What's funny is that given the current situation of Poland, the EU will end up paying for the fines they imposed