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>> "...freedom to switch to any ride-sharing network they like (or even multiple networks)." The hardware manufacturer/owner will fight tooth and nail to preve

by avn2109 10y ago

>> "...freedom to switch to any ride-sharing network they like (or even multiple networks)." The hardware manufacturer/owner will fight tooth and nail to prevent this. They'll probably write a clause into the user's contract that says "If you use an unauthorized ride share network, we will delete your account with us and remotely disable your hardware." It's the same school of thought as Google deleting your gmail for reselling a Pixel phone at launch. If I'm not mistaken Tesla might have already written this clause into their contracts.

halflings 10y ago
>> Google deleting your gmail for reselling a Pixel phone at launch. Any reference for this? I think you are referring to [1], but that was not because somebody sold their Pixel phone, but because a company was reselling a large number of Pixel phones from New Hampshire to avoid sales tax (which is against the ToS, and probably borderline illegal). Also: "Many of the accounts suspended were created for the sole purpose of this scheme. After investigating the situation, we are restoring access to genuine accounts for customers who are locked out of many Google services they rely on." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-suspends-customer-accounts-for-reselling-pixel-phones https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-su...
manarth 10y ago
>> "The people who own the cars…will have the freedom to switch to >> any ride-sharing network they like (or even multiple networks)." > "The hardware manufacturer/owner will fight tooth and nail to prevent this" At the moment, there's no hardware to speak of. Uber/Lyft don't make the cars. They don't make the handsets that the apps run on. Without a monopoly/control of the hardware, their leverage is just the network effect. > "It's the same school of thought as Google deleting your > gmail for reselling a Pixel phone at launch." An action which they reversed [1]. That's also more of an issue for Google because their services are so diverse - not an issue to consider with Uber/Lyft unless their business model changes significantly. > "If I'm not mistaken Tesla might have already written this > clause into their contracts" The Tesla clause relates to self-driving usage: "using a self-driving Tesla for car sharing and ride hailing for friends and family is fine, but doing so for revenue purposes will only be permissible on the Tesla Network" [2]. [1] http://www.techtimes.com/articles/186353/20161119/google-suspended-then-restored-pixel-resellers-accounts-how-to-download-your-google-data-via-takeout-in-case-you-get-banned.htm http://www.techtimes.com/articles/186353/20161119/google-sus... [2] http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/10/20/tesla-dont-use-your-self-driving-car-for-ride-sharing-services-like-uber-or-lyft/ http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/10/20/tesla-dont-use-your...

by avn2109 10y ago

halflings 10y ago

>> Google deleting your gmail for reselling a Pixel phone at launch. Any reference for this? I think you are referring to [1], but that was not because somebody sold their Pixel phone, but because a company was reselling a large number of Pixel phones from New Hampshire to avoid sales tax (which is against the ToS, and probably borderline illegal). Also: "Many of the accounts suspended were created for the sole purpose of this scheme. After investigating the situation, we are restoring access to genuine accounts for customers who are locked out of many Google services they rely on." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-suspends-customer-accounts-for-reselling-pixel-phones https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-su...

manarth 10y ago

>> "The people who own the cars…will have the freedom to switch to >> any ride-sharing network they like (or even multiple networks)." > "The hardware manufacturer/owner will fight tooth and nail to prevent this" At the moment, there's no hardware to speak of. Uber/Lyft don't make the cars. They don't make the handsets that the apps run on. Without a monopoly/control of the hardware, their leverage is just the network effect. > "It's the same school of thought as Google deleting your > gmail for reselling a Pixel phone at launch." An action which they reversed [1]. That's also more of an issue for Google because their services are so diverse - not an issue to consider with Uber/Lyft unless their business model changes significantly. > "If I'm not mistaken Tesla might have already written this > clause into their contracts" The Tesla clause relates to self-driving usage: "using a self-driving Tesla for car sharing and ride hailing for friends and family is fine, but doing so for revenue purposes will only be permissible on the Tesla Network" [2]. [1] http://www.techtimes.com/articles/186353/20161119/google-suspended-then-restored-pixel-resellers-accounts-how-to-download-your-google-data-via-takeout-in-case-you-get-banned.htm http://www.techtimes.com/articles/186353/20161119/google-sus... [2] http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/10/20/tesla-dont-use-your-self-driving-car-for-ride-sharing-services-like-uber-or-lyft/ http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/10/20/tesla-dont-use-your...