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That story doesn't reflect too well on Musk either. Based on the rest of the article, I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can, and I wouldn't take h

by ikeboy 10y ago

That story doesn't reflect too well on Musk either. Based on the rest of the article, I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can, and I wouldn't take his stories at face value: that said, making up stories involving other people isn't usually advisable. It may very well be exaggerated, though? Edit: I didn't know the story had been mentioned previously, I take back my skepticism regarding that.

conistonwater 10y ago
> I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can That's a kind of a strange road to go down, isn't it? I think usually the whole argue-in-good-faith thing, together with the principle of charity, require you to assume people mean what they say.
- ikeboy 10y ago
  If you really mean that maybe more corruption/conflicts of interests are needed, you're going to need to spend more time arguing for that than a couple of paragraphs in a nytimes profile.
  - Gargoyle 10y ago
    A different view on his corruption statement. http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/01/boring-little-corruption.html http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/01/bor... ' If you would like a “left wing example,” had the fiscal stimulus been twice as large, corruption in government probably would have been higher too (pointing out “the stimulus wasn’t very corrupt” is missing the point and in fact is a sign that you are a rampant mood affiliator, determined to restore the mood you feel is just, rather than tracing the analytic point at hand). In other words, Peter’s point is entirely defensible and probably correct. He’s not saying that “corruption is good.”'
trsohmers 10y ago
It's a true story, and both Thiel and Musk have been saying it the same way for over 15 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M
- ikeboy 10y ago
  I wasn't aware there was a history, I take back any skepticism on that.
noobermin 10y ago
No, it happened[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M
kenshaw 10y ago
When it's politics, it's not "trolling" -- it's sampling the constituency's appetite for the candidate, and getting early testing poll / focus group data feedback for free.
- ikeboy 10y ago
  Interesting, but there are some things you can't take back, although recent events may suggest otherwise.

by ikeboy 10y ago

conistonwater 10y ago

> I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can That's a kind of a strange road to go down, isn't it? I think usually the whole argue-in-good-faith thing, together with the principle of charity, require you to assume people mean what they say.

ikeboy 10y ago
If you really mean that maybe more corruption/conflicts of interests are needed, you're going to need to spend more time arguing for that than a couple of paragraphs in a nytimes profile.
- Gargoyle 10y ago
  A different view on his corruption statement. http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/01/boring-little-corruption.html http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/01/bor... ' If you would like a “left wing example,” had the fiscal stimulus been twice as large, corruption in government probably would have been higher too (pointing out “the stimulus wasn’t very corrupt” is missing the point and in fact is a sign that you are a rampant mood affiliator, determined to restore the mood you feel is just, rather than tracing the analytic point at hand). In other words, Peter’s point is entirely defensible and probably correct. He’s not saying that “corruption is good.”'

trsohmers 10y ago

It's a true story, and both Thiel and Musk have been saying it the same way for over 15 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M

ikeboy 10y ago
I wasn't aware there was a history, I take back any skepticism on that.

noobermin 10y ago

No, it happened[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M

kenshaw 10y ago

When it's politics, it's not "trolling" -- it's sampling the constituency's appetite for the candidate, and getting early testing poll / focus group data feedback for free.

ikeboy 10y ago
Interesting, but there are some things you can't take back, although recent events may suggest otherwise.