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The app was done by Apple, not by Google. Apple used the Google Maps API and that API doesn't allow turn by turn. So no, Google did not screwed Apple, both com

by Oletros 10y ago

The app was done by Apple, not by Google. Apple used the Google Maps API and that API doesn't allow turn by turn. So no, Google did not screwed Apple, both companies didn't agree to for the terms to use the turn by turn. That's all, none of them were guilty of anything.

eridius 10y ago
The app's code was written by Apple, yes, but it was done so in close collaboration with Google. It's not like Apple was just another API consumer. And if Google hadn't had their heads up their asses, they would have given turn-by-turn to Apple and perhaps enjoyed still being the default mapping app on iOS. Also FWIW it wasn't just turn-by-turn, it was also the fact that Google wanted Apple to give them more user data, which Apple didn't want to do. So even with turn-by-turn it's possible Apple may have chosen to do their own maps anyway, but turn-by-turn was definitely a major reason why Apple dropped Google and built their own service.
- Oletros 10y ago
  My God, I have said that both didn't agree in the terms, Apple wanted turn by turn and Google wanted more user data for giving it. But yes. Evil Google sdcreweed Poor Little Apple. They had to give ALL the features without receiving anything, who they tought they were?
  - eridius 10y ago
    You are aware that Google makes a large portion of its mobile profits from iOS, right? Even though Google wasn't getting as much user data as they wanted from Apple, being the default mapping app on iOS was still a big benefit for them. It's not like Google was being generous by providing maps for iOS. So Google just screwed themselves. Google thought they could force Apple to do what Google wanted, because they thought Apple didn't have a reasonable alternative. But it turns out that Apple did, which was to build their own independent mapping service.
    - Oletros 10y ago
      > You are aware that Google makes a large portion of its mobile profits from iOS And you can provide a source for that claim, isn't? But yes, we are aware that you're convinced that Google were just a evil and stupid company that screwed themselves. In what world two companies can disagree, Apple was totally right demanding everything without giving more. Problem is that reality is what it is, both of them are powerful companies, both of them have their interests and they didn't aligned. Nothin less, nothing more. Not he fracking black and whit world you paint
      - eridius 10y ago
        I really don't know what kind of argument you think you're having, but each new comment is making less and less sense. I also don't appreciate how you keep trying to put words in my mouth. The whole point of my original comment was to just dispute the claim that Apple developed their own Maps out of spite. I don't know why you're trying so hard to pretend that the removal of Google Maps was entirely Apple's fault, and why you keep repeating the same claims that I've already debunked (e.g. "Apple was totally right demanding everything without giving more").

by Oletros 10y ago

eridius 10y ago

The app's code was written by Apple, yes, but it was done so in close collaboration with Google. It's not like Apple was just another API consumer. And if Google hadn't had their heads up their asses, they would have given turn-by-turn to Apple and perhaps enjoyed still being the default mapping app on iOS. Also FWIW it wasn't just turn-by-turn, it was also the fact that Google wanted Apple to give them more user data, which Apple didn't want to do. So even with turn-by-turn it's possible Apple may have chosen to do their own maps anyway, but turn-by-turn was definitely a major reason why Apple dropped Google and built their own service.

Oletros 10y ago
My God, I have said that both didn't agree in the terms, Apple wanted turn by turn and Google wanted more user data for giving it. But yes. Evil Google sdcreweed Poor Little Apple. They had to give ALL the features without receiving anything, who they tought they were?
- eridius 10y ago
  You are aware that Google makes a large portion of its mobile profits from iOS, right? Even though Google wasn't getting as much user data as they wanted from Apple, being the default mapping app on iOS was still a big benefit for them. It's not like Google was being generous by providing maps for iOS. So Google just screwed themselves. Google thought they could force Apple to do what Google wanted, because they thought Apple didn't have a reasonable alternative. But it turns out that Apple did, which was to build their own independent mapping service.
  - Oletros 10y ago
    > You are aware that Google makes a large portion of its mobile profits from iOS And you can provide a source for that claim, isn't? But yes, we are aware that you're convinced that Google were just a evil and stupid company that screwed themselves. In what world two companies can disagree, Apple was totally right demanding everything without giving more. Problem is that reality is what it is, both of them are powerful companies, both of them have their interests and they didn't aligned. Nothin less, nothing more. Not he fracking black and whit world you paint
    - eridius 10y ago
      I really don't know what kind of argument you think you're having, but each new comment is making less and less sense. I also don't appreciate how you keep trying to put words in my mouth. The whole point of my original comment was to just dispute the claim that Apple developed their own Maps out of spite. I don't know why you're trying so hard to pretend that the removal of Google Maps was entirely Apple's fault, and why you keep repeating the same claims that I've already debunked (e.g. "Apple was totally right demanding everything without giving more").