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Well, all over this subthread I'm comparing it to my local laws and procedures. My answers are to be read in that context. Over here you get a picture showing
by darklajid 10y ago
Well, all over this subthread I'm comparing it to my local laws and procedures. My answers are to be read in that context.
Over here you get a picture showing license plate and driver for most offenses (obviously not for parking tickets etc). Pointing out that the picture shows your wife or your daughter should be a trivial exercise.
But I understand that this might not be the case in your jurisdiction. Now, I hope you do get some evidence. The license plate at least?
If the car you own, that you are responsible for, is caught speeding, then there's no way in hell that you can shrug and say "Well.. Could've been anyone, really. The keys usually are in the lock, anyone could be the driver". That excuse seems mind-blowingly easy to exploit. Sure - you might not know who drove the car. In my world, that should have consequences for you, the owner (over here it's on a case by case basis, not a strict consequence).
My understanding so far is that someone wants to weasel out of that responsibility by paying a lawyer.. or teaching law. "If you cannot tell who drove it's your problem" is a crappy answer imo, because that can only lead to more surveillance. And there lies my problem, my issue.
- sk5t 10y agoThe only weaseling here is by the entity that would levy a fine/penalty without presenting sufficient evidence. Moreover, it is or should be a natural right for the accused to confront their accusers. Both of these important ideas are trampled if you accept violations issued by a machine.
- jaclaz 10y agoOld, old news, but still funny IMHO: http://arbroath.blogspot.it/2008/10/german-police-seek-speeding-british.html http://arbroath.blogspot.it/2008/10/german-police-seek-speed...