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I mean isn't there some psychological studies that show that people consume more calories when under extreme stress. And what could be more stress inducing tha

I mean isn't there some psychological studies that show that people consume more calories when under extreme stress. And what could be more stress inducing than poverty and what provides the highest amount of calories ? It's easy to demonize these people but they're under extreme stress all the time.

forgotpwtomain 10y ago
> they're under extreme stress all the time. Where are you finding these people under 'extreme stress all the time'? I rented for a few months in a place where most of the tenants were on some kind of social welfare or awaiting the outcomes of disability cases (for years) - 'stressed' would be the last word I'd use to describe them and 'lazy' would come much closer. But hey anecdotal experience: do you have a citation for your claim about the stress levels of those living in poverty?
- Casseres 10y ago
  Stress and laziness are not mutually exclusive. Mental and physical stress are two different things. Being uncertain of one's future can be very streessful, especially when it comes to money.
  - sanderjd 10y ago
    To layer on another anecdote: fairly recently, I was financially insecure for the first time in my adult life. It was the most stressed and awful that I've ever felt. I was sort of numb and lethargic all the time. I dunno, I might have seemed lazy to the people around me. I won't suggest that I know anything more than my personal experience, but it definitely gave me a lot more perspective on what it's like to be persistently unsettled about the future.
- PlugTunin 10y ago
  "Heavy workloads, job insecurity or living in poverty are circumstances that can result in chronically increased stress, which in turn can lead to chronic psychological disorders such as depression." (Read the above in an article published two days ago. Yeah, poverty sucks -- not to dispute your anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Laughing at people who've never had any financial problems. Must be nice!) http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38584975 http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38584975
- URSpider94 10y ago
  There are tons of studies on this. Here's a good starting point, if you're interested. http://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/PathwaysWinter11_Evans.pdf http://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/PathwaysW...
- jklinger410 10y ago
  And so continues the age old liberal vs conservative argument. "They're stressed!" "They're lazy!" Ad nauseum.
  - nickthemagicman 10y ago
    Well science kind of has evidence pointing in the direction of the stressed hypothesis.

forgotpwtomain 10y ago

> they're under extreme stress all the time. Where are you finding these people under 'extreme stress all the time'? I rented for a few months in a place where most of the tenants were on some kind of social welfare or awaiting the outcomes of disability cases (for years) - 'stressed' would be the last word I'd use to describe them and 'lazy' would come much closer. But hey anecdotal experience: do you have a citation for your claim about the stress levels of those living in poverty?

Casseres 10y ago
Stress and laziness are not mutually exclusive. Mental and physical stress are two different things. Being uncertain of one's future can be very streessful, especially when it comes to money.
- sanderjd 10y ago
  To layer on another anecdote: fairly recently, I was financially insecure for the first time in my adult life. It was the most stressed and awful that I've ever felt. I was sort of numb and lethargic all the time. I dunno, I might have seemed lazy to the people around me. I won't suggest that I know anything more than my personal experience, but it definitely gave me a lot more perspective on what it's like to be persistently unsettled about the future.
PlugTunin 10y ago
"Heavy workloads, job insecurity or living in poverty are circumstances that can result in chronically increased stress, which in turn can lead to chronic psychological disorders such as depression." (Read the above in an article published two days ago. Yeah, poverty sucks -- not to dispute your anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Laughing at people who've never had any financial problems. Must be nice!) http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38584975 http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38584975
URSpider94 10y ago
There are tons of studies on this. Here's a good starting point, if you're interested. http://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/PathwaysWinter11_Evans.pdf http://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/PathwaysW...
jklinger410 10y ago
And so continues the age old liberal vs conservative argument. "They're stressed!" "They're lazy!" Ad nauseum.
- nickthemagicman 10y ago
  Well science kind of has evidence pointing in the direction of the stressed hypothesis.