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> eating more vegetables and meats What is everyone living on? Just bread?

by mac01021 10y ago

ryanplant-au 10y ago
Rice, breads, and noodles do make up a very large percentage of many people's diets, especially when you're in poverty.
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  It's not just a diet: it's an empire. ;) http://www.maruchan.com/ http://www.maruchan.com/
- jacobolus 10y ago
  Indeed, these kinds of “staples” have made up the bulk of calories in pretty much all peasant diets around the world for the past 5000+ years. Not just rice and wheat, but also including oats, barley, rye, maize, quinoa, potatoes, yams, manioc (a.k.a. cassava, yuca), taro, plantains, soybeans, peas, lentils, chickpeas, beans, etc. Reliance on staples is the main reason that agricultural societies tend to have substantially shorter stature, shorter life expectancy, and more health problems than hunter–gatherer societies. In recent times, the biggest problem is sugar though. Modern people consume ridiculous quantities of refined sugar in processed foods, fast restaurant food, soda and fruit juice, etc. Consuming large quantities of alcohol also isn’t helping anything.
kyriakos 10y ago
Vegetables and meat are lower in carbs than rice, potatoes, pasta, bread etc
- madiathomas 10y ago
  One little correction -> Meat has zero carbs. All kinds of meat.
  - dkbrk 10y ago
    I don't believe that's strictly correct. Muscles contain glycogen, Wikipedia tells me [0], at a concentration of 1-2% by mass. That shouldn't really be dietarily relevant, but you did say zero carbs. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen
    - unlikelymordant 10y ago
      There Is no glycogen in meat from the store, glycogen quickly breaks down after death. https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/354ho4/if_glycogen_is_stored_in_the_muscles_how_come/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/354ho4/if_glycog...
      - avatar345 10y ago
        Meat is best while eaten still alive. Seafood in particular.
paulddraper 10y ago
And doughnuts, coffee, ramen, and soda.
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  Replace doughnuts with Banquet dinners and you described my college years well. I mean, there was also alcohol involved.

> eating more vegetables and meats What is everyone living on? Just bread?

ryanplant-au 10y ago

Rice, breads, and noodles do make up a very large percentage of many people's diets, especially when you're in poverty.

nickpsecurity 10y ago
It's not just a diet: it's an empire. ;) http://www.maruchan.com/ http://www.maruchan.com/
jacobolus 10y ago
Indeed, these kinds of “staples” have made up the bulk of calories in pretty much all peasant diets around the world for the past 5000+ years. Not just rice and wheat, but also including oats, barley, rye, maize, quinoa, potatoes, yams, manioc (a.k.a. cassava, yuca), taro, plantains, soybeans, peas, lentils, chickpeas, beans, etc. Reliance on staples is the main reason that agricultural societies tend to have substantially shorter stature, shorter life expectancy, and more health problems than hunter–gatherer societies. In recent times, the biggest problem is sugar though. Modern people consume ridiculous quantities of refined sugar in processed foods, fast restaurant food, soda and fruit juice, etc. Consuming large quantities of alcohol also isn’t helping anything.

kyriakos 10y ago

Vegetables and meat are lower in carbs than rice, potatoes, pasta, bread etc

madiathomas 10y ago
One little correction -> Meat has zero carbs. All kinds of meat.
- dkbrk 10y ago
  I don't believe that's strictly correct. Muscles contain glycogen, Wikipedia tells me [0], at a concentration of 1-2% by mass. That shouldn't really be dietarily relevant, but you did say zero carbs. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen
  - unlikelymordant 10y ago
    There Is no glycogen in meat from the store, glycogen quickly breaks down after death. https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/354ho4/if_glycogen_is_stored_in_the_muscles_how_come/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/354ho4/if_glycog...
    - avatar345 10y ago
      Meat is best while eaten still alive. Seafood in particular.

paulddraper 10y ago

And doughnuts, coffee, ramen, and soda.

nickpsecurity 10y ago
Replace doughnuts with Banquet dinners and you described my college years well. I mean, there was also alcohol involved.