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Male engineer at Lever here, and I can confirm that we don't make hiring decisions based on gender or gender presentation. It's not only highly illegal, but tot

Male engineer at Lever here, and I can confirm that we don't make hiring decisions based on gender or gender presentation. It's not only highly illegal, but totally not the point of tracking diversity metrics. The ultimate goal here is not to build a company with perfect representation of the general population, but to build a company which honestly evaluates and rewards the contributions of all its employees (because we believe that those kinds of companies do build better products, businesses, etc.) and you can't do that unless you're inclusive and consistently fair with everyone in the company. A number like 50-50 gender balance doesn't mean that we've finished building that company (and no company is ever finished). However, an imbalance of gender or any demographic such as age, race, prior work experience (such as government, enterprise, startup), academic background, parental status, etc. at a company usually indicates that there's a blindspot or bug in a company's hiring or culture and it deserves a closer look.

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yeuei8 10y ago
How much autistic can you be?? If you don't make decisions based on gender,how the fuck you got 50/50 ratio as you have been advertising?
- geofft 10y ago
  Hire only the best people, because being the best isn't correlated with gender? And actively recruit from balanced pools (paying attention to gender balance), which is very different from making hiring decisions based on gender? This is pretty straightforward if you're in fact committed to hiring only the best people.
  - anonemu 10y ago
    Seems like bullshit. As someone who's been doing a lot of interviewing recently the ratio of male to female SDE candidates is at least 10:1. If we assume that ability is uniformly distributed there is literally no way to get to a 50:50 split or anywhere close to it without discrimination.
    - geofft 10y ago
      If you believe that ability is uniformly distributed, and you're getting a 10:1 ratio of men to women, 9/10 of the men who apply are unqualified. Men are known to apply to jobs they're not qualified for way more than women do. I have also been doing a lot of interviewing recently and that number seems about right.
      - uiwu98ei 10y ago
        Mate (hope I can call you mate than a cunt), tell you what - this is discrimination. Parent post to which you replied is correct. If there are more men applying for jobs, it is very high chance that more men are qualified, especially in SV. >>> Men are known to apply to jobs they're not qualified for way more than women do Did you pull that out of your ass? Try being a men over 35 and applying to bullshit YC startups and see how much response you get. Not only this company is promoting discrimination, but YC is also participating in it by funding such company. At the end of day, no one I mean NO ONE gives a shit about you gender ratio, pay gap et al. I have many women friends from all classes of the society. Women hate to work for another women due to internal fighting. Go figure. This company will fail.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  > How much autistic can you be? Hey. Don't.
muninn_ 10y ago
>However, an imbalance of gender or any demographic such as age, race, prior work experience (such as government, enterprise, startup), academic background, parental status, etc. at a company usually indicates that there's a blindspot or bug in a company's hiring or culture and it deserves a closer look. Why? How are you making this determination? Should your demographics reflect the US population? State population? Hell, why not world population? Why are any of these inherently better or worse than any other?

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yeuei8 10y ago

How much autistic can you be?? If you don't make decisions based on gender,how the fuck you got 50/50 ratio as you have been advertising?

geofft 10y ago
Hire only the best people, because being the best isn't correlated with gender? And actively recruit from balanced pools (paying attention to gender balance), which is very different from making hiring decisions based on gender? This is pretty straightforward if you're in fact committed to hiring only the best people.
- anonemu 10y ago
  Seems like bullshit. As someone who's been doing a lot of interviewing recently the ratio of male to female SDE candidates is at least 10:1. If we assume that ability is uniformly distributed there is literally no way to get to a 50:50 split or anywhere close to it without discrimination.
  - geofft 10y ago
    If you believe that ability is uniformly distributed, and you're getting a 10:1 ratio of men to women, 9/10 of the men who apply are unqualified. Men are known to apply to jobs they're not qualified for way more than women do. I have also been doing a lot of interviewing recently and that number seems about right.
    - uiwu98ei 10y ago
      Mate (hope I can call you mate than a cunt), tell you what - this is discrimination. Parent post to which you replied is correct. If there are more men applying for jobs, it is very high chance that more men are qualified, especially in SV. >>> Men are known to apply to jobs they're not qualified for way more than women do Did you pull that out of your ass? Try being a men over 35 and applying to bullshit YC startups and see how much response you get. Not only this company is promoting discrimination, but YC is also participating in it by funding such company. At the end of day, no one I mean NO ONE gives a shit about you gender ratio, pay gap et al. I have many women friends from all classes of the society. Women hate to work for another women due to internal fighting. Go figure. This company will fail.
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
> How much autistic can you be? Hey. Don't.

muninn_ 10y ago

>However, an imbalance of gender or any demographic such as age, race, prior work experience (such as government, enterprise, startup), academic background, parental status, etc. at a company usually indicates that there's a blindspot or bug in a company's hiring or culture and it deserves a closer look. Why? How are you making this determination? Should your demographics reflect the US population? State population? Hell, why not world population? Why are any of these inherently better or worse than any other?