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Terrible graphics. I'm not up-to-date but are we still at this level?

by twsted 10y ago

teach 10y ago
Yes. Even the best VR headsets still have incredibly low pixel density. According to Michael Abrash, "the per-degree pixel density of a 1k by 1k, 110-degree VR display is... actually lower pixel density than the original Quake running at 320x200."[0] And when you call the graphics "terrible" do you mean they actually look bad to you from inside a VR headset, or just looking at the screenshot on some other device? Because what looks amazing in a traditional game can look cartoony and fake within VR, and incredibly simple things can look startlingly real. [0] https://youtu.be/G-2dQoeqVVo?t=14m30s https://youtu.be/G-2dQoeqVVo?t=14m30s
Filligree 10y ago
It's just barely good enough to be a compelling experience. VR games are a lot of fun, but this is going to drive GPU development for a long time to come.
- ehnto 10y ago
  I welcome it! Admittedly I have enjoyed the past few years of not having to upgrade my graphics card. It would seem thanks to consoles, that shader technology and performance has been a focus of game development for a little while. The result being better and better visuals still running on the same hardware just fine. But I am also behind an escalation of the chipset manufacturers duelling it out. Some market impetus would surely bring about some great new engineering.
- TillE 10y ago
  This is exactly why I'm not jumping into VR right now. Once we have hi-res VR headsets and GPUs that can handle it comfortably, then I'll be interested. Give it five years or so, probably.
andybak 10y ago
Depends. Remember a lot of this stuff is driven by small dev houses and in some cases - one man bands. Sometimes the graphics aren't up to scratch. Also - there's a tendency towards flat shading as an aesthetic choice - it actually looks great in VR and frame rate is king. However - check out something like Valve's "The Lab" to see how skilled devs can produce stunning graphics that run really smoothly in VR. It shows it's possible...
- andybak 10y ago
  (self-reply) I found this compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8om7lcNpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8om7lcNpg On reflection I don't think VR graphics are looking bad at all...
cpayne 10y ago
I'll take horrible graphics over awesome gameplay any day. Take a look at 'Onward' - just shows how simple can equal awesome!

Terrible graphics. I'm not up-to-date but are we still at this level?

by twsted 10y ago

Terrible graphics. I'm not up-to-date but are we still at this level?

teach 10y ago

Yes. Even the best VR headsets still have incredibly low pixel density. According to Michael Abrash, "the per-degree pixel density of a 1k by 1k, 110-degree VR display is... actually lower pixel density than the original Quake running at 320x200."[0] And when you call the graphics "terrible" do you mean they actually look bad to you from inside a VR headset, or just looking at the screenshot on some other device? Because what looks amazing in a traditional game can look cartoony and fake within VR, and incredibly simple things can look startlingly real. [0] https://youtu.be/G-2dQoeqVVo?t=14m30s https://youtu.be/G-2dQoeqVVo?t=14m30s

Filligree 10y ago

It's just barely good enough to be a compelling experience. VR games are a lot of fun, but this is going to drive GPU development for a long time to come.

ehnto 10y ago
I welcome it! Admittedly I have enjoyed the past few years of not having to upgrade my graphics card. It would seem thanks to consoles, that shader technology and performance has been a focus of game development for a little while. The result being better and better visuals still running on the same hardware just fine. But I am also behind an escalation of the chipset manufacturers duelling it out. Some market impetus would surely bring about some great new engineering.
TillE 10y ago
This is exactly why I'm not jumping into VR right now. Once we have hi-res VR headsets and GPUs that can handle it comfortably, then I'll be interested. Give it five years or so, probably.

andybak 10y ago

Depends. Remember a lot of this stuff is driven by small dev houses and in some cases - one man bands. Sometimes the graphics aren't up to scratch. Also - there's a tendency towards flat shading as an aesthetic choice - it actually looks great in VR and frame rate is king. However - check out something like Valve's "The Lab" to see how skilled devs can produce stunning graphics that run really smoothly in VR. It shows it's possible...

andybak 10y ago
(self-reply) I found this compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8om7lcNpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8om7lcNpg On reflection I don't think VR graphics are looking bad at all...

cpayne 10y ago

I'll take horrible graphics over awesome gameplay any day. Take a look at 'Onward' - just shows how simple can equal awesome!