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I agree it doesn't have to be utilitarian to be admirable. That's called art. But you seem to be saying it's particularly admirable because it's for its own sak

I agree it doesn't have to be utilitarian to be admirable. That's called art. But you seem to be saying it's particularly admirable because it's for its own sake? That is a weird POV to me.

stinkytaco 10y ago
That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't call this art, and it certainly has no point, at least not a utilitarian one. You wouldn't make money, and it probably wouldn't even be that fun to play. It's just cool. It's mastery. Doing something because it's a challenge you find interesting, not because there's something external to be gained. It's pretty zen, really.
- solipsism 10y ago
  I wouldn't call this art You'd be wrong then. It's pretty zen, really. You have a very low bar for calling something "zen". I'm good at flipping bottles of mustard and such behind my back without dropping them. No point really, just fun. Zen?
  - eludwig 10y ago
    When you are hungry, eat. When you are tired, sleep. This is exactly Zen.
    - apricot 10y ago
      When you are neither hungry nor tired, hack.