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Nothing to worry about according to Gizmodo: > The supposed “backdoor” the Guardian is describing is > actually a feature working as intended, and it would

by frabbit 10y ago

Nothing to worry about according to Gizmodo: > The supposed “backdoor” the Guardian is describing is > actually a feature working as intended, and it would > require significant collaboration with Facebook to be > able to snoop on and intercept someone’s encrypted > messages, something the company is extremely unlikely > to do. http://gizmodo.com/theres-no-security-backdoor-in-whatsapp-despite-report-1791158247 http://gizmodo.com/theres-no-security-backdoor-in-whatsapp-d... I, for one, certainly cannot imagine Facebook collaborating to such an extent with the government.

bvc35 10y ago
I hope you are being sarcastic.
mentat 10y ago
There's a </sarcasm> there right?
- frabbit 10y ago
  What? You must be some sort of conspiracy theorist. Just be rational and extrapolate from your beliefs: if you admit that Facebook might do this, then why not Google, AT&T, Microsoft? There would be no end to it. Basically it would mean that all businesses are spying on you and handing the information over to the government. I have complete faith that that is untrue based upon just the history of the last 5 years.
  - throwaway11317 10y ago
    > AT&T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A I thought maybe after the last decade's revelations about the security apparatus, we might be beyond calling people who are a bit paranoid about their security "conspiracy theorists".
    - frabbit 10y ago
      Ah, obviously you are a Russian troll trying to hack the US telecoms industry.
  - evv 10y ago
    Sarcasm usually plays out very poorly on written mediums like this, but you nailed it.
    - mentat 10y ago
      Yes, well done.
      - frabbit 10y ago
        I feel bad now. I'm just highly frustrated that everyone is not actuated by the idea "if they _can_ spy on you, then they _will_". Any appeal to morals/integrity/laws are essentially moot in this area. We have the ability to protect ourselves and we should be using it. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveillance-powers-his-way-out https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveill...
        skadamou 10y ago
        > We have the ability to protect ourselves and we should be using it. I don't doubt that the technology exists, I just doubt the ability of the average person to be able to protect themselves. As someone who works in a technical field with decent computer literacy, I still have a hard time approaching this problem. Perhaps I'm just not as literate as I think I am.
        hughes 10y ago
        "They have no reason to look" is to me equivalent to "I have nothing to hide". Both may be true, but both willfully surrender control of the situation.
        deleted 10y ago
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  - manigandham 10y ago
    Serious question: why do people believe that corporations can somehow beat government/law? The government has absolute power and will always win.
d33 10y ago
Moxie says there's no backdoor as well: https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoo...

by frabbit 10y ago

bvc35 10y ago

I hope you are being sarcastic.

mentat 10y ago

There's a </sarcasm> there right?

frabbit 10y ago
What? You must be some sort of conspiracy theorist. Just be rational and extrapolate from your beliefs: if you admit that Facebook might do this, then why not Google, AT&T, Microsoft? There would be no end to it. Basically it would mean that all businesses are spying on you and handing the information over to the government. I have complete faith that that is untrue based upon just the history of the last 5 years.
- throwaway11317 10y ago
  > AT&T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A I thought maybe after the last decade's revelations about the security apparatus, we might be beyond calling people who are a bit paranoid about their security "conspiracy theorists".
  - frabbit 10y ago
    Ah, obviously you are a Russian troll trying to hack the US telecoms industry.
- evv 10y ago
  Sarcasm usually plays out very poorly on written mediums like this, but you nailed it.
  - mentat 10y ago
    Yes, well done.
    - frabbit 10y ago
      I feel bad now. I'm just highly frustrated that everyone is not actuated by the idea "if they _can_ spy on you, then they _will_". Any appeal to morals/integrity/laws are essentially moot in this area. We have the ability to protect ourselves and we should be using it. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveillance-powers-his-way-out https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveill...
      - skadamou 10y ago
        > We have the ability to protect ourselves and we should be using it. I don't doubt that the technology exists, I just doubt the ability of the average person to be able to protect themselves. As someone who works in a technical field with decent computer literacy, I still have a hard time approaching this problem. Perhaps I'm just not as literate as I think I am.
      - hughes 10y ago
        "They have no reason to look" is to me equivalent to "I have nothing to hide". Both may be true, but both willfully surrender control of the situation.
        deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
- manigandham 10y ago
  Serious question: why do people believe that corporations can somehow beat government/law? The government has absolute power and will always win.

d33 10y ago

Moxie says there's no backdoor as well: https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoo...