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Well, until it has been tested, it is neither tried nor proven. And here is but a single reason http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide http://en.wikipedia.org

by earl 16y ago

Well, until it has been tested, it is neither tried nor proven. And here is but a single reason http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide for such testing requirements. Edit: to be clear, I was attempting to respond to the parent's parent post. I apparently suck at internet.

barrkel 16y ago
The use case for an antivenom based on known working precedents, where the untreated alternative is death, is somewhat different to sedatives used generally to treat colds, coughs, morning sickness, etc.
- earl 16y ago
  No. Read the article -- in the example used, the alternative is weeks on a ventilator. Which we know works. Until these drugs are known to be efficacious with tolerable side effects, they are still a second best treatment.
  - pyre 16y ago
    What if you are too far away from a facility that can provide that for you? Having a syringe of anti-venom with you can be the difference between life and death.
    - evgen 16y ago
      There is no facility you will encounter that has the anti-venom but does not have a ventilator. This is not like an epi-pen or some other OTC med that a backpacker will carry with them, it is a hospital-dispensed, fucking expensive dose of medicine (e.g. rattlesnake anti-venom is around $4K/bottle.) But why let reality get in the way of a good rant I guess...
      - pyre 16y ago
        How could you classify my comment as a rant? I realize that 'tone' doesn't really translate well through text and you might read my comment as an attack (which it wasn't), but how can a couple of sentences be a 'rant?' I would think that a rant would have to be at least a few sentences or more (or some sort of absolute character/word limit in the case of large run-on sentences). If you felt it was made in anger or hate, I would think it would classify as a retort or something similar.
pyre 16y ago
> Edit: to be clear, I was attempting to respond to the parent's parent post. I apparently suck at internet. Something weird happened. When I originally posted, your comment was a sibling post to mine (and was already a child of the root of this thread after the page reload from submitting my comment). I was surprised when I came back to this thread to see your comment a child to my comment.

by earl 16y ago

barrkel 16y ago

The use case for an antivenom based on known working precedents, where the untreated alternative is death, is somewhat different to sedatives used generally to treat colds, coughs, morning sickness, etc.

earl 16y ago
No. Read the article -- in the example used, the alternative is weeks on a ventilator. Which we know works. Until these drugs are known to be efficacious with tolerable side effects, they are still a second best treatment.
- pyre 16y ago
  What if you are too far away from a facility that can provide that for you? Having a syringe of anti-venom with you can be the difference between life and death.
  - evgen 16y ago
    There is no facility you will encounter that has the anti-venom but does not have a ventilator. This is not like an epi-pen or some other OTC med that a backpacker will carry with them, it is a hospital-dispensed, fucking expensive dose of medicine (e.g. rattlesnake anti-venom is around $4K/bottle.) But why let reality get in the way of a good rant I guess...
    - pyre 16y ago
      How could you classify my comment as a rant? I realize that 'tone' doesn't really translate well through text and you might read my comment as an attack (which it wasn't), but how can a couple of sentences be a 'rant?' I would think that a rant would have to be at least a few sentences or more (or some sort of absolute character/word limit in the case of large run-on sentences). If you felt it was made in anger or hate, I would think it would classify as a retort or something similar.

pyre 16y ago

> Edit: to be clear, I was attempting to respond to the parent's parent post. I apparently suck at internet. Something weird happened. When I originally posted, your comment was a sibling post to mine (and was already a child of the root of this thread after the page reload from submitting my comment). I was surprised when I came back to this thread to see your comment a child to my comment.