Agree. Swift is (one of) the most open source project apple has ever released. If anyone could complain about apple secrecy, lattner was probably the last one.

Agree. Swift is (one of) the most open source project apple has ever released. If anyone could complain about apple secrecy, lattner was probably the last one. Something doesn't add up. I think this is all speculation, and that something else more concrete was the real reason. Maybe something like lattner wanting to go server side / linux full speed with swift, and apple not wanting to allocate enough resources on that ? Or people inside Apple still sticking to objective c too much ? Anyway, i'm really curious to see how this story will evolve.