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Regarding the iPad, do kids/parents see that as a gaming device? You can't get real games on one of those.

ashark 10y ago
Oh, yeah. iOS is pretty much the only platform with half-decent children's edutainment games that aren't 20+ years old.
H4CK3RM4N 10y ago
My iPhone now has a bunch of 2D Sonics, Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic, The Binding Of Isaac, a full port of Lego Star Wars, Surgeon Simulator, Minecraft, Hearthstone and a few others. Seems like iOS supports real games to me.
- ollie87 10y ago
  GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas too. And you can use a Bluetooth controller.
  - sanchostache 10y ago
    I have an Android phone with a 6 inch screen, switch's screen is only .2" bigger. My phone even has a better resolution.
Confusion 10y ago
The games you can get on an iPad are very real games to kids.
- eltoozero 10y ago
  Which has lead to the current market of free-to-play (pay-to-win) games and ruined potential most legitimate indie titles to thrive on the platform. Jeff Minter himself has abandoned iOS altogether, leaving an amazing collection of some of the tightest controlling and most gorgeous retro styled iOS arcade shooters completely defunct like they never existed. (Minotaur Project) [0] (Let this also be a lesson to back up your iOS stuff, iCloud will not save apps that are removed from the App Store). [0]: http://minotaurproject.co.uk/blog/?p=376 http://minotaurproject.co.uk/blog/?p=376
- msh 10y ago
  But as a parent it is hard to find the good games on the ipad, most are crappy pay to win stuff.
notgood 10y ago
You are in for a surprise: https://www.google.com.co/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/22/mobile-game-revenue-to-pass-console-pc-for-first-time.html?client=ms-android-motorola https://www.google.com.co/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/22/mo... There are many beautiful and immersive games for mobile, for example Disney's Castle of Illusion and Star Wars Commander.
djaychela 10y ago
My youngest stepson (10) just got one for Christmas (secondhand iPad mini 2). He's mostly gaming on it, and he loves it. Bear in mind he has access to an xbox one, too. He doesn't see the iPad as inferior; he certainly did the hudl that he sold in order to part fund the iPad purchase.
- michaelmrose 10y ago
  Sample size of one and do you really see the xbox one and the ipad mini as equally good game machines?
  - WillPostForFood 10y ago
    Games are the number 1 app category in the iOS app store. [1] and smartphone + tablet game market is bigger than either console or PC game market.[2] So people clearly see them as gaming devices. [1]https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-reaches-99-6-billion-2016-mobile-generating-37/ https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-rea... [2]https://www.statista.com/statistics/270291/popular-categories-in-the-app-store/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/270291/popular-categorie...
    - michaelmrose 10y ago
      I don't think mobile games and Xbox games are the same market save for both competing for disposable income. Neither is a fit stand in for the other.
      - WillPostForFood 10y ago
        They also compete for a limited amount of time. There are very few console gamers who also don't have a smartphone or tablet with some games on it. They may not explicitly choose to game on their phone over Xbox, and they may acknowledge that they enjoy console games more. But on a given night, maybe they choose to watch tv, and second screen some games on their phone. And if that phone didn't exist, they would have chosen to play on their console. So they aren't equivalent, but they can still substitute for each other, and compete for time/money/attention.
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fnord123 10y ago
>do kids/parents see that as a gaming device? It's a "make my kids shut up in the car or in a restaurant" device.
- unexistance 10y ago
  unfortunate truth ..
  - vinay427 10y ago
    It's especially bothersome to me when parents use "learning" apps to try and pretend that they're being a more productive parent by giving their child an iPad. Perhaps they can do some good, but their effects are also vastly overstated and are no substitute for hands-on physical teaching by parents. Here is an example study that tries to test the effects of apps vs. parents teaching foreign language words: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20855901 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20855901
    - markonen 10y ago
      If by apps you mean a watching DVD, which (based on the abstract) was what this studied.
- rickyc091 10y ago
  This is the truth. Many kids are still using Nintendo 3DS as a gaming console in conjunction to having a tablet.
pjmlp 10y ago
Even grown ups. For me playing has mostly moved into the phone and tablet as I am often on the go. RTS games are great for touch interfaces.
- dkersten 10y ago
  Can you recommend any good RTS games for iOS? Personally, I use my iPad for games when I travel (and sometimes during my twice-a-week commute) and at home I play games almost exclusively on PS4. I rarely, if ever, play games on my laptop now, despite having over 300 games on Steam.
jbergens 10y ago
Depends on the parents and the kids. Some kids love to play on their tablets and others prefer 3DS or similar. You can't say that no kids (or teenagers or adults) play on tablets.
kriro 10y ago
There's a bunch of "real games". Additionally it also has great board game ports if that's your thing.
criddell 10y ago
Yes. My house has a PS4, Ps3, Wii-U, a gaming PC, a Vita, and two 3DS machines. My kids spend 90% of their gaming hours on an iPad or phone. The PS4 is my favorite device.

Oh, yeah. iOS is pretty much the only platform with half-decent children's edutainment games that aren't 20+ years old.

My iPhone now has a bunch of 2D Sonics, Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic, The Binding Of Isaac, a full port of Lego Star Wars, Surgeon Simulator, Minecraft, Hearthstone and a few others. Seems like iOS supports real games to me.

ollie87 10y ago
GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas too. And you can use a Bluetooth controller.
- sanchostache 10y ago
  I have an Android phone with a 6 inch screen, switch's screen is only .2" bigger. My phone even has a better resolution.

Confusion 10y ago

The games you can get on an iPad are very real games to kids.

eltoozero 10y ago
Which has lead to the current market of free-to-play (pay-to-win) games and ruined potential most legitimate indie titles to thrive on the platform. Jeff Minter himself has abandoned iOS altogether, leaving an amazing collection of some of the tightest controlling and most gorgeous retro styled iOS arcade shooters completely defunct like they never existed. (Minotaur Project) [0] (Let this also be a lesson to back up your iOS stuff, iCloud will not save apps that are removed from the App Store). [0]: http://minotaurproject.co.uk/blog/?p=376 http://minotaurproject.co.uk/blog/?p=376
msh 10y ago
But as a parent it is hard to find the good games on the ipad, most are crappy pay to win stuff.

notgood 10y ago

You are in for a surprise: https://www.google.com.co/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/22/mobile-game-revenue-to-pass-console-pc-for-first-time.html?client=ms-android-motorola https://www.google.com.co/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/22/mo... There are many beautiful and immersive games for mobile, for example Disney's Castle of Illusion and Star Wars Commander.

djaychela 10y ago

My youngest stepson (10) just got one for Christmas (secondhand iPad mini 2). He's mostly gaming on it, and he loves it. Bear in mind he has access to an xbox one, too. He doesn't see the iPad as inferior; he certainly did the hudl that he sold in order to part fund the iPad purchase.

michaelmrose 10y ago
Sample size of one and do you really see the xbox one and the ipad mini as equally good game machines?
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  Games are the number 1 app category in the iOS app store. [1] and smartphone + tablet game market is bigger than either console or PC game market.[2] So people clearly see them as gaming devices. [1]https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-reaches-99-6-billion-2016-mobile-generating-37/ https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-rea... [2]https://www.statista.com/statistics/270291/popular-categories-in-the-app-store/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/270291/popular-categorie...
  - michaelmrose 10y ago
    I don't think mobile games and Xbox games are the same market save for both competing for disposable income. Neither is a fit stand in for the other.
    - WillPostForFood 10y ago
      They also compete for a limited amount of time. There are very few console gamers who also don't have a smartphone or tablet with some games on it. They may not explicitly choose to game on their phone over Xbox, and they may acknowledge that they enjoy console games more. But on a given night, maybe they choose to watch tv, and second screen some games on their phone. And if that phone didn't exist, they would have chosen to play on their console. So they aren't equivalent, but they can still substitute for each other, and compete for time/money/attention.

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fnord123 10y ago

>do kids/parents see that as a gaming device? It's a "make my kids shut up in the car or in a restaurant" device.

unexistance 10y ago
unfortunate truth ..
- vinay427 10y ago
  It's especially bothersome to me when parents use "learning" apps to try and pretend that they're being a more productive parent by giving their child an iPad. Perhaps they can do some good, but their effects are also vastly overstated and are no substitute for hands-on physical teaching by parents. Here is an example study that tries to test the effects of apps vs. parents teaching foreign language words: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20855901 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20855901
  - markonen 10y ago
    If by apps you mean a watching DVD, which (based on the abstract) was what this studied.
rickyc091 10y ago
This is the truth. Many kids are still using Nintendo 3DS as a gaming console in conjunction to having a tablet.

pjmlp 10y ago

Even grown ups. For me playing has mostly moved into the phone and tablet as I am often on the go. RTS games are great for touch interfaces.

dkersten 10y ago
Can you recommend any good RTS games for iOS? Personally, I use my iPad for games when I travel (and sometimes during my twice-a-week commute) and at home I play games almost exclusively on PS4. I rarely, if ever, play games on my laptop now, despite having over 300 games on Steam.

jbergens 10y ago

Depends on the parents and the kids. Some kids love to play on their tablets and others prefer 3DS or similar. You can't say that no kids (or teenagers or adults) play on tablets.

kriro 10y ago

There's a bunch of "real games". Additionally it also has great board game ports if that's your thing.

criddell 10y ago

Yes. My house has a PS4, Ps3, Wii-U, a gaming PC, a Vita, and two 3DS machines. My kids spend 90% of their gaming hours on an iPad or phone. The PS4 is my favorite device.