> This is true today if you wanted to live at the same standard of middle class living in 1929, complete with eating only meals hand cooked from base ingredient

> This is true today if you wanted to live at the same standard of middle class living in 1929, complete with eating only meals hand cooked from base ingredients and no concern with the environmental effects of things like burning coal and garbage. I wished you stopped at "eating only meals hand cooked" It's garbage that people in 1929 had "no concern with the environmental effects of things like burning coal and garbage" OK, they probably had no concern, but that was because there was none to have. They didn't buy stuff and throw it away, there was no disposable society. They lived simply. Not travelling the world, or large distances to go to X every weekend. But whats worse in your comment to me is you can live a much much better lifestyle than 1929 on 16 hours a week, traveling the world and having great things while respecting the environment. You just can't have the things society says you should have.