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Showing a demo of a fighting game where a male character repeatedly punches and ultimately knocks out a female character just felt like a missed opportunity to

by jhugg 10y ago

Showing a demo of a fighting game where a male character repeatedly punches and ultimately knocks out a female character just felt like a missed opportunity to me. How hard would it be to flip that for the demo? (Already regretting posting this comment) Edit: And here come the downvotes. You can always count on HN.

jakebasile 10y ago
I mean, it's a fighting game? Generally it involves people/monsters/robots punching other people/monsters/robots.
- jhugg 10y ago
  I get it. Most of the people who watch the presentation won't care. It just would have been such an easy change that wouldn't have made the presentation any worse for anyone, and it would have made it a bit better for some. It's not like Nintendo threw this show together in a few hours; they've considered a lot of details. And note this was specifically human avatars in 3d with clear genders. Non-gendered monsters or robots wouldn't have the same issue. It wasn't a montage either; it was a single match demo.
  - bicubic 10y ago
    > Non-gendered monsters or robots wouldn't have the same issue What issue? Please come out and explicitly state what the issue here is.
    - mordant 10y ago
      The issue is that he wants Nintendo to engage in pointless SJWish virtue-signaling, and is disappointed they didn't take the opportunity to do so. The fact that they didn't do this makes me much more inclined to buy a Nintendo Switch!
      - bicubic 10y ago
        I get the SJW overtones of his comments, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic behind them. He'd prefer girls beating up guys, or robots beating up robots. Basically, every combination of beating up is okay, except male on female? What?
        eptgrant 10y ago
        The guy is a loony.
        jhugg 10y ago
        That about sums it up. If you're going to pick exactly one combination, why pick the one that's loaded for so many people? But honestly I wouldn't have even noticed if it hadn't been so unbalanced. Here's the actual video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabG4yPZqFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabG4yPZqFM She doesn't even land a punch. If it were a back and forth with the dude eventually winning, it wouldn't have stood out to me at all and I wouldn't have commented. If they had shown several fights and this was one of them, it also wouldn't have stood out.
jazoom 10y ago
Maybe they didn't want to be predictable?
neximo64 10y ago
How do you not know the female character wasn't advantaged. If you're going to go by this cliché analogy, the female character is likely to be smarter and have more agility than the male character. It really just depends on the skill of the player, not the avatar. That's the whole point of the game, not to subtly present political statements.

by jhugg 10y ago

jakebasile 10y ago

I mean, it's a fighting game? Generally it involves people/monsters/robots punching other people/monsters/robots.

jhugg 10y ago
I get it. Most of the people who watch the presentation won't care. It just would have been such an easy change that wouldn't have made the presentation any worse for anyone, and it would have made it a bit better for some. It's not like Nintendo threw this show together in a few hours; they've considered a lot of details. And note this was specifically human avatars in 3d with clear genders. Non-gendered monsters or robots wouldn't have the same issue. It wasn't a montage either; it was a single match demo.
- bicubic 10y ago
  > Non-gendered monsters or robots wouldn't have the same issue What issue? Please come out and explicitly state what the issue here is.
  - mordant 10y ago
    The issue is that he wants Nintendo to engage in pointless SJWish virtue-signaling, and is disappointed they didn't take the opportunity to do so. The fact that they didn't do this makes me much more inclined to buy a Nintendo Switch!
    - bicubic 10y ago
      I get the SJW overtones of his comments, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic behind them. He'd prefer girls beating up guys, or robots beating up robots. Basically, every combination of beating up is okay, except male on female? What?
      - eptgrant 10y ago
        The guy is a loony.
      - jhugg 10y ago
        That about sums it up. If you're going to pick exactly one combination, why pick the one that's loaded for so many people? But honestly I wouldn't have even noticed if it hadn't been so unbalanced. Here's the actual video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabG4yPZqFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabG4yPZqFM She doesn't even land a punch. If it were a back and forth with the dude eventually winning, it wouldn't have stood out to me at all and I wouldn't have commented. If they had shown several fights and this was one of them, it also wouldn't have stood out.

jazoom 10y ago

Maybe they didn't want to be predictable?

neximo64 10y ago

How do you not know the female character wasn't advantaged. If you're going to go by this cliché analogy, the female character is likely to be smarter and have more agility than the male character. It really just depends on the skill of the player, not the avatar. That's the whole point of the game, not to subtly present political statements.