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I really think Pandora should start full on-demand music service for additional subscription fee instead of just being radio. Playlist creation and sharing is b

by sytelus 10y ago

I really think Pandora should start full on-demand music service for additional subscription fee instead of just being radio. Playlist creation and sharing is becoming huge but still in fancy from tech perspective. Lot of people are stuck on particular service just because of their carefully created playlists over long time. That generates significant sticky factor. I've personally paid Rhapsody subscription for couple of years without much using it just to keep my playlists alive. This in addition can massively help improve radio itself. Also it can eliminate all that nonsense of not allowing to skip unlimited number of tracks. In my opinion, Pandora still has best of the best radio service (although far from perfect) and if they can supplement that with huge catelogues like Google Music with family subscription, there would be one more reason to stay there.

jmtulloss 10y ago
https://www.google.com/amp/blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-p...
- JonathonW 10y ago
  Direct link: http://blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/ http://blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/
vlunkr 10y ago
But that would make them just like Spotify, and several other services. I think it would be hard to compete that way. And I have nothing to confirm this, but I doubt preserving playlists is a common reason to keep paying for a music service. If you really want it, you can find a way to export it, or copy it by hand. Otherwise you just make a new playlist from scratch.
- robzyb 10y ago
  > But that would make them just like Spotify, and several other services. I think it would be hard to compete that way. Its even harder to compete if your product is crappy... which is essentially what the OP was suggesting. > If you really want it, you can find a way to export it, or copy it by hand. The thing is that most people don't really want it. Therefore it is significantly harder to move to Pandora than it is to leave Pandora.
thirdsun 10y ago
They bought rdio. A service that was regarded by many, including me, as the best streaming service, certainly better than Spotify and with a thriving, enthusiastic community of music lovers - even today I still can't comment on or discuss albums, playlists and songs with others in Spotify, which is a social graveyard. And then they shut it down.
- kpennell 10y ago
  You made me realize that I really like that about Spotify
  - thirdsun 10y ago
    It's not as if they forced you to participate and the quality of the discussion was rather worthwhile - it certainly wasn't a Youtube comment section. In my case, without social features and lack of discussion Spotify is relegated to a simple preview hub for music I discovered elsewhere with an incomplete catalog. I'm considering dropping my subscription since I buy and own my music anyway. The community and the discovery through it is the feature that made rdio special. Bandcamp comes close since the users are also very passionate. Spotify, however? Discover Weekly can't replace real human curation. The results are either already known to me (which Spotify should know) or just very mediocre. It falls short like most other recommendation engines.
- amorphid 10y ago
  I mostly enjoy streaming music, as I find it a hassle to manage a music library. For about 3 years, I was a paying Pandora member, and mostly happy with it. I had created one super station with 250-ish artists. One day, I decided to create a new station for each artist. That went fine until I hit 100 artists. I email customer support to ask if they could lift the limit, or just remove it all together. They replied... Thanks for writing. There is a 100 station limit on all accounts, free or paid. You'll need to delete some stations you don't listen to much anymore in order to create more. To delete a station, click on 'options' and select 'Delete this Station. Sorry for the inconvenience, but thanks for your support! That was the day I switched to Rdio. I loved Rdio up until the day Pandora shutdown the service. I most certainly didn't go back to Pandora after that. Now I'm pretty happy with Google Play Music. Hopefully they won't nerf it.

by sytelus 10y ago

jmtulloss 10y ago

https://www.google.com/amp/blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-p...

JonathonW 10y ago
Direct link: http://blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/ http://blog.pandora.com/us/coming-soon-pandora-premium/

vlunkr 10y ago

But that would make them just like Spotify, and several other services. I think it would be hard to compete that way. And I have nothing to confirm this, but I doubt preserving playlists is a common reason to keep paying for a music service. If you really want it, you can find a way to export it, or copy it by hand. Otherwise you just make a new playlist from scratch.

robzyb 10y ago
> But that would make them just like Spotify, and several other services. I think it would be hard to compete that way. Its even harder to compete if your product is crappy... which is essentially what the OP was suggesting. > If you really want it, you can find a way to export it, or copy it by hand. The thing is that most people don't really want it. Therefore it is significantly harder to move to Pandora than it is to leave Pandora.

thirdsun 10y ago

They bought rdio. A service that was regarded by many, including me, as the best streaming service, certainly better than Spotify and with a thriving, enthusiastic community of music lovers - even today I still can't comment on or discuss albums, playlists and songs with others in Spotify, which is a social graveyard. And then they shut it down.

kpennell 10y ago
You made me realize that I really like that about Spotify
- thirdsun 10y ago
  It's not as if they forced you to participate and the quality of the discussion was rather worthwhile - it certainly wasn't a Youtube comment section. In my case, without social features and lack of discussion Spotify is relegated to a simple preview hub for music I discovered elsewhere with an incomplete catalog. I'm considering dropping my subscription since I buy and own my music anyway. The community and the discovery through it is the feature that made rdio special. Bandcamp comes close since the users are also very passionate. Spotify, however? Discover Weekly can't replace real human curation. The results are either already known to me (which Spotify should know) or just very mediocre. It falls short like most other recommendation engines.
amorphid 10y ago
I mostly enjoy streaming music, as I find it a hassle to manage a music library. For about 3 years, I was a paying Pandora member, and mostly happy with it. I had created one super station with 250-ish artists. One day, I decided to create a new station for each artist. That went fine until I hit 100 artists. I email customer support to ask if they could lift the limit, or just remove it all together. They replied... Thanks for writing. There is a 100 station limit on all accounts, free or paid. You'll need to delete some stations you don't listen to much anymore in order to create more. To delete a station, click on 'options' and select 'Delete this Station. Sorry for the inconvenience, but thanks for your support! That was the day I switched to Rdio. I loved Rdio up until the day Pandora shutdown the service. I most certainly didn't go back to Pandora after that. Now I'm pretty happy with Google Play Music. Hopefully they won't nerf it.