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Linking to a dictionary definition has little relevance to such a discussion. The meaning of words depends on their context. "faith" has specific connotations
by dkbrk 10y ago
Linking to a dictionary definition has little relevance to such a discussion.
The meaning of words depends on their context. "faith" has specific connotations when used in the context of religion, and the phrase "faith of atheism" attempts to apply these same connotations to atheism, implicitly placing it in the same category as religions and neatly sidestepping the question of whether such a categorization is appropriate.
Whether atheism should be categorized along with religions is a question which should be addressed on its own merits by looking at the characteristics of atheism and religions themselves, rather than looking up a dictionary definition and seeing if the words match.
In that context, I think it is quite appropriate to claim:
> Atheism isn't a belief that there is no god, it's an observation that we don't experience any supernatural forces interacting with this universe.
Regardless of whether or not that is what is written down in the dictionary.
For further reference, see 'Arguing "By Definition" (LessWrong)': http://lesswrong.com/lw/nz/arguing_by_definition/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/nz/arguing_by_definition/
- majewsky 10y agoArguing "by definition" has value to it when it helps advance a conversation by uncovering the subtle ways in which the different definitions of each party diverge from each other. It's only unproductive if one party doesn't realize that all definitions are man-made, and stubbornly insists that the other party's definition is wrong. Insofar, I think that introducing the definition has brought a net positive value to this discussion here.