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Linux on the desktop for the last nineteen years, in various flavors. It's just never going to compete with the MacOS experience. I used Mac as a software dev

Linux on the desktop for the last nineteen years, in various flavors. It's just never going to compete with the MacOS experience. I used Mac as a software dev for three years and went from enthusiastic to "never again". Macs aren't for everyone and while I move back and forth between Linux and Windows I still defend Mac users, even wish there where more of them to really stokke the fire under Microsofts desktop division : ) What I can totally live without though is the "Mac is objectively best" attitude. It is NOT. At least not for everyone. So: can we please stop? I'll defend you paying for your tools and you guys stop acting like our operating systems of choice aren't as good as yours? Please?

eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago
You're replying on a post about how "we" are all moving away from Apple, so you have to remember that context. A lot of these replies are challenging that premise, especially when the author of that article provides no evidence of their headline. I've seen no evidence or numbers of this mass exodus from mac->linux that people claim except a few loud/popular blog posts by individuals who have done it. That distorts what is actually happening. I actually agree with a lot of what is said in the article, but I dispute how many people are actually moving to Linux. I looked into moving to Linux this past month because I needed a new machine, but went with a 2016 MBP instead. I really wanted to go Linux, I love Linux, but I just don't think it's there yet if you want a portable. There needs to be better collaboration between a hardware manufacturer and the distribution, which is really what MacOS continues to excel at. And for all the hate the new MBP received on this website, I like just about everything about it. I have a lot of gripes with MacOS and where Apple has been taking it, but I still think it's a better experience than Linux on a laptop. Yes, that is a personal opinion, but this is coming from someone that has been waiting and waiting to switch to Linux if the right machine came along. Still waiting. I do not want to be fidgeting with drivers whatsoever. I need it to just work, so I can get to work.
- baldfat 10y ago
  > I've seen no evidence or numbers of this mass exodus from mac->linux that people claim It's all around you but people are failing to see it right now. Apple is pushing the common denominator off of laptops and desktops and onto Tablets and Phones. There is a 33% drop since just start of 2016. "According to web analytics vendor Net Applications, Apple’s desktop and notebook operating system—formerly OS X, now macOS—powered just 6.1 percent of all personal computers last month, down from 7 percent a year ago and a peak of 9.6 percent as recently as April 2016" http://www.infoworld.com/article/3155128/macs/macs-share-falls-to-five-year-low.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/3155128/macs/macs-share-fal... Just look at these numbers Linux has continued to climb while Apple's MacOS OSX numbers get smaller and smaller. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share... I would say the ONLY thing that keeps 50% of the people is building iOS requiers MacOS OS X equipment. It certainly isn't the Apple Experience.
overcast 10y ago
The only one's claiming something is objectively better, are the ones saying they moved onto Linux. You know, like the entire point of this article titled "Why are we all moving away from Apple?"
- reitanqild 10y ago
  >> It's just never going to compete with the MacOS experience. It will never have the nice applications, the polished interface ... > The only one's claiming something is objectively better, are the ones saying they moved onto Linux. So, in other words linux will never compete even if Mac OSX isn't objectively better?

eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago

You're replying on a post about how "we" are all moving away from Apple, so you have to remember that context. A lot of these replies are challenging that premise, especially when the author of that article provides no evidence of their headline. I've seen no evidence or numbers of this mass exodus from mac->linux that people claim except a few loud/popular blog posts by individuals who have done it. That distorts what is actually happening. I actually agree with a lot of what is said in the article, but I dispute how many people are actually moving to Linux. I looked into moving to Linux this past month because I needed a new machine, but went with a 2016 MBP instead. I really wanted to go Linux, I love Linux, but I just don't think it's there yet if you want a portable. There needs to be better collaboration between a hardware manufacturer and the distribution, which is really what MacOS continues to excel at. And for all the hate the new MBP received on this website, I like just about everything about it. I have a lot of gripes with MacOS and where Apple has been taking it, but I still think it's a better experience than Linux on a laptop. Yes, that is a personal opinion, but this is coming from someone that has been waiting and waiting to switch to Linux if the right machine came along. Still waiting. I do not want to be fidgeting with drivers whatsoever. I need it to just work, so I can get to work.

baldfat 10y ago
> I've seen no evidence or numbers of this mass exodus from mac->linux that people claim It's all around you but people are failing to see it right now. Apple is pushing the common denominator off of laptops and desktops and onto Tablets and Phones. There is a 33% drop since just start of 2016. "According to web analytics vendor Net Applications, Apple’s desktop and notebook operating system—formerly OS X, now macOS—powered just 6.1 percent of all personal computers last month, down from 7 percent a year ago and a peak of 9.6 percent as recently as April 2016" http://www.infoworld.com/article/3155128/macs/macs-share-falls-to-five-year-low.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/3155128/macs/macs-share-fal... Just look at these numbers Linux has continued to climb while Apple's MacOS OSX numbers get smaller and smaller. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share... I would say the ONLY thing that keeps 50% of the people is building iOS requiers MacOS OS X equipment. It certainly isn't the Apple Experience.

overcast 10y ago

The only one's claiming something is objectively better, are the ones saying they moved onto Linux. You know, like the entire point of this article titled "Why are we all moving away from Apple?"

reitanqild 10y ago
>> It's just never going to compete with the MacOS experience. It will never have the nice applications, the polished interface ... > The only one's claiming something is objectively better, are the ones saying they moved onto Linux. So, in other words linux will never compete even if Mac OSX isn't objectively better?