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Yes, I've heard all the excuses as to why apple can only offer 16gb. There are xeon laptops with 128gb, so whatever.

Philipp__ 10y ago
But those Xeon CPUs are not ULV. Are you reading what I wrote or you do not know what Ultra Low Voltage CPU mean?! Apple uses exclusively ULV CPUs and Intel will offer first ULV models that extend 16GB limit at the end of 2017. So it's on Intel not Apple. And if Apple do not bump the RAM limit in 2018. then we can throw that on them. Edit: I was wrong about CPU, mixed it with LPDDR, here -> https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/
- robotjosh 10y ago
  This IS the complaint- that apple is only selling ultralights now.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> Apple uses exclusively ULV CPUs Wait, what? The 2016 15" Macbook Pro's HQ series CPUs are ULV? I'm pretty sure laptops using 6##0HQ family are 32GB capable. Apple may have a valid reason for not giving 32GB (battery life), but that's a separate issue from whether you can have 32GB with that processor family. --edit: added reference to CPUs used in 2016 macs: http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-2016.html http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-201...
  - Philipp__ 10y ago
    Pardon problem was with low power DDR4 RAM memory that would be required to exceed 16GB limit. Source: https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/
    - slantyyz 10y ago
      Yes, but you have to admit that not using the DDR4 was an iffy, arbitrary judgement call on the part of Apple. Only the 15"s can have 32GB, and I would think a lot of pro users would make the battery life trade off if given the opportunity. The reduced battery life of a 32GB 15" Macbook Pro would not impact a significant number of Mac users -- most normal people wouldn't be willing to pay for the RAM upgrade (Apple RAM is never cheap) and it seems like the majority of people prefer the 13" models anyways, and they are capped at 16GB.
      - Philipp__ 10y ago
        I think that the problem lies in Touch Bar. T1 Chip and Touch strip require far more battery power than I thought. So battery is already on the edge of being disappointing if not already that. Plus lack of Non Touch Bar 15" model is also disappointing. But hey, I think that in a next iteration or two those will be great machines. With 32GB options, more battery power, reduced price and better software integration for Touch Bar. So I am patient. I bought maxed out 13" in 2015 and I can't be happier with that machine.

But those Xeon CPUs are not ULV. Are you reading what I wrote or you do not know what Ultra Low Voltage CPU mean?! Apple uses exclusively ULV CPUs and Intel will offer first ULV models that extend 16GB limit at the end of 2017. So it's on Intel not Apple. And if Apple do not bump the RAM limit in 2018. then we can throw that on them. Edit: I was wrong about CPU, mixed it with LPDDR, here -> https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/

robotjosh 10y ago
This IS the complaint- that apple is only selling ultralights now.
slantyyz 10y ago
>> Apple uses exclusively ULV CPUs Wait, what? The 2016 15" Macbook Pro's HQ series CPUs are ULV? I'm pretty sure laptops using 6##0HQ family are 32GB capable. Apple may have a valid reason for not giving 32GB (battery life), but that's a separate issue from whether you can have 32GB with that processor family. --edit: added reference to CPUs used in 2016 macs: http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-2016.html http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-201...
- Philipp__ 10y ago
  Pardon problem was with low power DDR4 RAM memory that would be required to exceed 16GB limit. Source: https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/ https://macdaddy.io/macbook-pro-limited-16gb-ram/
  - slantyyz 10y ago
    Yes, but you have to admit that not using the DDR4 was an iffy, arbitrary judgement call on the part of Apple. Only the 15"s can have 32GB, and I would think a lot of pro users would make the battery life trade off if given the opportunity. The reduced battery life of a 32GB 15" Macbook Pro would not impact a significant number of Mac users -- most normal people wouldn't be willing to pay for the RAM upgrade (Apple RAM is never cheap) and it seems like the majority of people prefer the 13" models anyways, and they are capped at 16GB.
    - Philipp__ 10y ago
      I think that the problem lies in Touch Bar. T1 Chip and Touch strip require far more battery power than I thought. So battery is already on the edge of being disappointing if not already that. Plus lack of Non Touch Bar 15" model is also disappointing. But hey, I think that in a next iteration or two those will be great machines. With 32GB options, more battery power, reduced price and better software integration for Touch Bar. So I am patient. I bought maxed out 13" in 2015 and I can't be happier with that machine.